There's several posters saying it's hard to be a day tripper at City. I don't know if that's the case.The club don’t want ST holders they want day trippers
Wonder if they will fill the new stand especially if we have no trophies thus season
Yet I struggle to get my grandson a ST with the rest of my family
Maybe I should get him a half and half
Not a chance BTW
I've said to blues who I go games with that who is it who makes these ticket office decisions surely has to be a red whos the shot caller as who could be the boss and be so deluded and be like yeah this is a good idea let's do this while being so wrong and out of touch time after time unbelievable really!I’m being deadly serious here and I know it’ll never happen, but they need some actual match going working class blues to be involved in this decision making or advising the club, because it’s ruining our fanbase.
Maybe they know and don’t care though?
Was that due to fans not wanting to return or the club not wanting to sell STs.Not had 40k season tickets for along time, lost loads after lockdown and. Never replaced them
We have agent Omar Berada wrecking things at the swamp and they've retaliated by getting a mole in our ticket office.I've said to blues who I go games with that who is it who makes these ticket office decisions surely has to be a red whos the shot caller as who could be the boss and be so deluded and be like yeah this is a good idea let's do this while being so wrong and out of touch time after time unbelievable really!
I’ve said this before. Our brand is damaged. It’s not attractive to kids, particularly if they come for the first time to an FA Cup game and all they can hear is the away fans singing “Is this a library”. When I was 7,8,9 my dad used to bollock me at Maine Road because I spent more time watching the Kippax than the game. I used to draw it at home, with arms in the air as fans sung.Liverpool have attracted crowds for years based on people wanting to experience the "Famous Anfield Atmosphere" (Even though it's a complete myth).
In comparison, the etihad is perceived as a Library that never even sells out.
If I was a clueless tourists or corporate, I know which I'd be more attracted to.
Another example of the club failing to have any long term planning or strategy.
Don’t worry mate. We could easily have some Wembley games coming up and then the cream will rise to the top again.Seat Counters was my favourite thread. Not anymore. It's like reading the thoughts of people on death row. Cheer up. Fucks sake.
Loads and loads of of kids and families at the Exeter game and they all had a whale of a time, especially going into school on Monday saying they witnessed history being madeI’ve said this before. Our brand is damaged. It’s not attractive to kids, particularly if they come for the first time to an FA Cup game and all they can hear is the away fans singing “Is this a library”. When I was 7,8,9 my dad used to bollock me at Maine Road because I spent more time watching the Kippax than the game. I used to draw it at home, with arms in the air as fans sung.
The way things have panned out couldn’t be worse. It’s become a self perpetuating thing.
It can be reversed. Arsenal had a similar reputation for years and they seem to have largely changed that now. But nobody at City even seems aware of this. Why can’t somebody compute that there is a reason we have loud away fans and quiet home fans?
Well it doesn’t seem there will be many of them at the wolves, Newcastle and Galatasary games.Loads and loads of of kids and families at the Exeter game and they all had a whale of a time, especially going into school on Monday saying they witnessed history being made
Do you honestly think they gave a shit about a bunch of rags and wurzels, 99% of whom have never been to an away game before, going through the tinpot EFL songbook?
Course they didn’t, they went home buzzing
Give your head a wobble
I hope so. The trajectory I acknowledge. However negativity accelerates the trajectory.Don’t worry mate. We could easily have some Wembley games coming up and then the cream will rise to the top again.
Remember though that some Seat Counters have been doing it for years and can spot trends that others don’t. At the moment the trajectory is going the wrong way at exactly the time when it needs to go the opposite way. The club would be sensible to put an experienced Seat Counter on the board but they wouldn’t dare.
That’s fair enough and fair comment tbf, no argument thereWell it doesn’t seem there will be many of them at the wolves, Newcastle and Galatasary games.
Ticket sales are down and our fanbase isn’t growing as it should. For a number of reasons.
Why hasn’t this comment got more likes?I’ve said this before. Our brand is damaged. It’s not attractive to kids, particularly if they come for the first time to an FA Cup game and all they can hear is the away fans singing “Is this a library”. When I was 7,8,9 my dad used to bollock me at Maine Road because I spent more time watching the Kippax than the game. I used to draw it at home, with arms in the air as fans sung.
The way things have panned out couldn’t be worse. It’s become a self perpetuating thing.
It can be reversed. Arsenal had a similar reputation for years and they seem to have largely changed that now. But nobody at City even seems aware of this. Why can’t somebody compute that there is a reason we have loud away fans and quiet home fans?
They are also supported by the tv companies who show the Gerry marsden karaoke pre match at every live game …Liverpool have attracted crowds for years based on people wanting to experience the "Famous Anfield Atmosphere" (Even though it's a complete myth).
In comparison, the etihad is perceived as a Library that never even sells out.
If I was a clueless tourists or corporate, I know which I'd be more attracted to.
Another example of the club failing to have any long term planning or strategy.
Don’t worry mate. We could easily have some Wembley games coming up and then the cream will rise to the top again.
Remember though that some Seat Counters have been doing it for years and can spot trends that others don’t. At the moment the trajectory is going the wrong way at exactly the time when it needs to go the opposite way. The club would be sensible to put an experienced Seat Counter on the board but they wouldn’t dare.
And those kids who came to those Cup ties for the first time have seen City score seven, eight and ten in the last five seasons alone.That’s fair enough and fair comment tbf, no argument there
But FA Cup ties on a weekend are one of the few times disenfranchised and outpriced locals can afford to go and also get tickets together with their kids
Midweeks seem to be the real issue
It's great that kids can get to see games with their families, but also a concern that so many ST holders don't bother with domestic cup games unless it's against a high-profile team. There were around 5,000 fewer home fans v Exeter yet still so many tickets available right up to the game.That’s fair enough and fair comment tbf, no argument there
But FA Cup ties on a weekend are one of the few times disenfranchised and outpriced locals can afford to go and also get tickets together with their kids
Midweeks seem to be the real issue
Great post. Social media also has a lot to answer for.And those kids who came to those Cup ties for the first time have seen City score seven, eight and ten in the last five seasons alone.
If anything, it's not the kids and their casual supporting families that aren't making the efforts.
It's still season ticket holders not turning up and stupid matchday prices.
If the Etihad was still 44k capacity, we wouldn't be talking like this. It's the expansions which has clouded what people now want to see.
Throughout all my years watching City, any crowds consistently hitting 35k were considered huge, and that goes for every club outside of United.
The biggest crowd I was ever in at Maine Road was 47,000 for the 5-1.
The fans haven't changed and neither has the desire or indifference to attend for most.
What's changed is football and society. They have constructed a narrative that every stadium needs to be bursting for the commercial optics, whether for the TV rights or selling it to various sponsors.
Social media exacerbates it because now rivals who never previously had a platform for one-upmanship, outside of their team winning trophies, can sit at home and never attend a game in person, yet somehow impact the psyche of someone who does.
Couldn't give a shit and you will also have those older City fans who love misery as company, so trying to make the issues more pronounced just because they can't be arsed to attend as regularly and while many have legitimate financial restrictions, many also piss it up the wall instead.
I'd rather a stadium was packed to the rafters 100 per cent of the time and the atmosphere to match, but it's a fantasy.
Give me five games a season where 61,000 are in and it's five games more than we have right now.
Away support make the most noise and always will, tribalism at its best.
Hypocrisy usually shows itself when the biggest games come around and the atmosphere takes care of itself.
Everything else is just contrived bollocks trying to rediscover a romanticised version that never really existed, outside of four or five games a season and the pools of piss and racism you had to avoid.
You/I would last a week before we would be moved out of the ticketing department.Don’t worry mate. We could easily have some Wembley games coming up and then the cream will rise to the top again.
Remember though that some Seat Counters have been doing it for years and can spot trends that others don’t. At the moment the trajectory is going the wrong way at exactly the time when it needs to go the opposite way. The club would be sensible to put an experienced Seat Counter on the board but they wouldn’t dare.
This has massively damaged our attendances. "Casual" fans can barely get a ticket now. I'm on a City ticket exchange facebook page and every game it gets full of people asking for tickets so they can go and make take their son or daughter or whatever, yet City are still selling tickets.
I know the driver behind this is matchday revenue but I think that better and noisier crowds will attract people to the stadium lespecially corporates. There is an opportunity this summer but they aren't going to take it, it seems.