Yes there's going to be a lot of that tomorrow.
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What's the betting they don't have anyone or any sign to tell people this is happening?Most people won't have read that security email and others will not have looked at their card so there could be people in a queue for 15 minutes who get to the gate and are turned away to queue for another 15 minutes. If they're actually trying to use the card in the gate and can't, what will that do for queues? Or you have someone at the end of each queue telling people to look at their card and go to that much longer queue next door - that's a nice job to have.
Most people just use the gate they reach first. The queues are self-regulating (because others look for the shortest).
This has all the hallmarks of a cups for cock-ups special. How will it help "security"? Unless there's some big brother face recognition scheme in mind.
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How about the radical idea of opening the turnstiles a bit earlier. They normally only open about 1hr before kick off, why not open them 2 hrs before and give each person who goes in early (in the first hour) a discount on a couple of beers/soft drinks/hot drinks. They could even do the discount using your season pass/ticket that is scanned at the turnstiles to show those who have entered early and stop people abusing the system, a bit like what they do at the airport when you buy duty free.
I know this doesn't help those that are not finishing work until 5/6pm but it might encorage people to go in earlier and reduce the mad rush 20 min before kick off.
I know this doesn't help those that are not finishing work until 5/6pm but it might encorage people to go in earlier and reduce the mad rush 20 min before kick off.
urban genie
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Honest question on the pic above why can the club not put up an inner fence on the yellow brick line just before the spirals which is basically massive exit gates and tonnes of turnstiles (if I was any good at drawing I would probably explain it better that way).
you could probably have lets say where P an Q has 8 turnstiles for entry to SS levels now we could get10-15 on an inner fence in that area
You go through and are then still out side but have a area now that could have extra bars and also people could smoke in the flesh air not poluting the toilets, also extra space/smoking area at half time amd buying food/drink.
The only arguments against could be
- that you now have access to all levels, but honestly you are gonna go to your seat not try and jib in anywhere else.
- less room btween the roadside perimiter fence and tgis new inner fence may be a safety issue with queues, but shirley if you could tripps the turnstile number queues would dissapear amd security checks would be faster.
- Some parts are disabled parking, well fence it sensible to not affect that.
- logically it doesn't work, probably true assomeone must have thought of this before and dismissed it.
lancs blue
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The Allianz Arena in Munich has something similar to your proposal, the turnstiles are built into an outer perimeter wall and then there's a wide external concourse before you get to the stadium itself.
Honest question on the pic above why can the club not put up an inner fence on the yellow brick line just before the spirals which is basically massive exit gates and tonnes of turnstiles (if I was any good at drawing I would probably explain it better that way).
you could probably have lets say where P an Q has 8 turnstiles for entry to SS levels now we could get10-15 on an inner fence in that area
You go through and are then still out side but have a area now that could have extra bars and also people could smoke in the flesh air not poluting the toilets, also extra space/smoking area at half time amd buying food/drink.
The only arguments against could be
Maybeit's a shite idea but it is a bit wank now with reduced entrances
- that you now have access to all levels, but honestly you are gonna go to your seat not try and jib in anywhere else.
- less room btween the roadside perimiter fence and tgis new inner fence may be a safety issue with queues, but shirley if you could tripps the turnstile number queues would dissapear amd security checks would be faster.
- Some parts are disabled parking, well fence it sensible to not affect that.
- logically it doesn't work, probably true assomeone must have thought of this before and dismissed it.
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It's a good idea and one that I know Everton for example has implemented in terms of discounts on food for early arrivers.
I expect the people who take advantage of the offer would be the ones who already get there early. It would have to be a really tempting offer to pursuade those who currently get to the stadium 15 mins before ko to leave the pub or Summerbee Bar nearly 1-2 hours earlier.
Stopping selling drinks in the summerbee bar half an hour before ko might help, but I can't see that happening!
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Regarding your discount for early arrivers tomorrow night,have you seen the announcement on the cityzens webpage about this,they are offering 10% of food and beveriges on orders over £10.here is the full message,it applies to all games just not tomorrow v everton
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Seasoncard holders and Matchday Cityzens can now get 10% off all purchases when spending £10 or more on food and beverage at the Etihad Stadium. This offer is valid at all official kiosks on home matchdays across all competitions throughout the 17/18 season.
All you have to do is present your Seasoncard or Cityzens Matchday card to the member of staff serving you."
Maybe this needs a new thread to let everyone know about this ?
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The beer is shite would need to up the refreshments on offer veriety wise to get people in longer having a couple before when they can be in the NQ or town and be at the ground within 15 mins also then once in those who smoke have an extra couple of hours without a tab
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Agree about the beer mate and as regards smokers well you cannot please everyone but just thought it might help a bit.
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Cheers for that pal hadn't spotted that !
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Oh I agree with idea, but the queues were populated with people who like a beer and a smoke as well as others but there was always an increase in numbers when the townley/D's emptied and city won't be able to change that unless they offer beer of more variety and better priced and smokers can fag it while drinking.
I don't smoke but know many who do and we don't bother with city square as the beers shite for the price and technically non smoking, so being in the ground for 1-2 hrs before the game would have to have something decent to go in for.
the space outside is ample to make the whole area more appealing with a wider range of bars offering different things.
maybe it's because I recently went the cricket and that brightons attitude after the game allowing you to go out and have a drink in the outer area is reflecting my view, but found both much better that what we do.
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I just think we have to accept the current situation and not moan if we turn up 15 minutes before kick off and miss the start of the game. I understand that going to a match isn't only about the footy, but about the experience with our mates etc., but if you put drinking and smoking before getting in in time, then you only have yourselves to blame. I turn up about 30 minutes before the game and accept it's my own hard luck if I don't get inside in time for the KO.
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Not having this, nobody should be waiting over 30 minutes to get into the ground.
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It shouldn't happen, but sometimes it does. City have to work on trying to improve the situation (not sure how easy that is with all the security checks these days!!!), but we, as fans, have to play our part by arriving a little earlier if we can. Having an extra pint or fag is hardly a good excuse to be late.
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So for 27 years I have been able to get go for a pre match pint and get to the ground 15 mins before and get in with time to spare but now I shouldn't be able.to because the club don't want it that way as they cannot handle it.
Part of football culture in this country is exactly that and too many do it to simply be well change your ways or tough tits.
City handled it all wrong last season with pojntless security checks that went out the window as soon as the queues were too big, and reducing entry to one turnstile section from two is not the way to improve it unless the stupid wanding of everyone has been abandoned.
Would be easier to for examole P 's 4 turnstiles to make one for people with bags only to be checked and the other 3 for everybody else, coats must be open to show no chest/stomach area and no frisking/ wanding as it was before.
Uncle Wally One Ball
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No, because there will be an equal number of people using each turnstile
What is gate seven and how will I know which turnstile to use? Also if I am standing in a huge queue and the one next to me had half a dozen people in it surely people will start kicking off to use that one and get inside? The main threat will be the packed public transport and walking near the roads.
You can't guarantee everyone for each turnstile all arrive at the same time.