Security

I.bleed.blue said:
Just think about the logistics of moving 50,000 plus people into and out of a confined space comfortably and safely - then consider need for absolute vigilance in the current climate. Is it too much to ask people to give themselves a bit more time and use a specific turnstile.
Give yourself a bit more time and ease the burden..
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That's fine to ask if a 3pm kick off on a Saturday, but on a Monday night when people are leaving work at 5 / travelling from around the area / country?
 
Security at the Etihad haha. They don't give a shit about queues or security, the tweet last season asking us to turn up hours earlier is a joke. We have jobs!!!!

If a terrorist attack ever happens at the Etihad (god forbid) all they need to do is stand in the middle of the queue outside the South Stand, last year's game against Monaco was a disgrace. The stewards on a power trip need to be told, if shit hits the fan and they're responsible for us we're fucked.
 
dadnlad said:
the security should be paid top money checking bags low wages and the risk these days they need a medal not calling
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I understand your point mate but they really need to be fit for purpose and they're not.

Just imagine if something did happen, it wouldn't take long for the shit to hit the fan (no pun) as we're all aware they for numerous reasons are unable to function effectively.
 
cibaman said:
Doesn't it also depend on how many turn up at each turnstile carrying bags? And how many are late or early arrivals?

There's probably logic to it, but I must admit I don't get it. If I arrive at the ground and see 4 queues I usually go to the shortest. Which surely helps regulates the lengths of the queues. If I'm compelled to only go to one then isn't there more potential for there being some short queues and some very long queues just before kick off.
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It was somewhat tongue in cheek, an image of the planning meeting between Showsec and City's security team came into my head and it wasn't pretty! I'm 'fortunate' in that I can get to the ground early, tbh it's a must because it's just a pain on the 602 and Mancunian Way otherwise, but I sympathise with anyone restricted to time because of work.
 
Says this in the email..... "In an emergency, listen to the Public Address instructions and follow them."

That's the "Public Address" that a third of the stadium hasn't been able to hear for the last three years then? Or have they finally fixed the tannoy?
 
Interstate 5 said:
Says this in the email..... "In an emergency, listen to the Public Address instructions and follow them."

That's the "Public Address" that a third of the stadium hasn't been able to hear for the last three years then? Or have they finally fixed the tannoy?
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You should try SS3, loud as fuck....so loud you can't actually here it when someone is talking, just a wall of noise.
 
Minimum security should be concrete barriers where fans cross the road car-park to stadium, ticket checks at perimeter (pat downs for under puffy style jackets - still not found that other suspected bomb from M.E.N arena). Think I'll be avoiding Tram and Sumerbee bar/city square and go straight in.
 
Security checks carried out by untrained staff who are paid a pittance.
In the event that a terrorist got through where would they lay the blame, on the poor guy/girl who was on the gate.
Imagine how they would cope with the rest of their life.
They will not employ a proper security firm, with sniffer dogs.
If they had explosive dogs going round the queues it would be a bigger deterrent than hap hazard searches.
And do they search every employee that is admitted to the stadium as well.??
 
will i still be able to get my cans of ale past security, never failed yet
 
I always get there 30mins before, usually queue a little outside B/K and waltz in with enough time for a pint before kick off.

I agree with Brendan110_0 - let's have perimeter checks instead, like they had for the Stone Roses concert... once 'inside the perimeter' you're free to grab a pint, use the contents of your bleedin' bag and get to your seat in time for kick off... all entrances pretty much open (with turnstiles for your season ticket, obviously!)

I'd also have sniffer dogs/security wandering around within the perimeter... I'm a big believer in presence preventing problems.
 
All the lovely lines of folks queuing up making wonderful targets for suicide bombers or speeding van drivers.
Someone needs to give their head a wobble about the current security restrictions.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
If people are given the choice of turnstiles they will usually choose the most convenient for them and not for the club getting people into the ground. Restricting people to only one turnstile, I assume, helps to eleviate that problem. It also helps the flow of people once in the stadium coming into the stadium by the closest to your seat helps by not having to cross people going in the opposite direction. Not by much I admit because you will always get people wandering around anyway.
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Is there a problem with the flow of people inside the stadium? Because there will be now outside the stadium as people will be passing people coming from the direction not nearest their closest entrance and vice versa - and when you pass your alternative entrance with no queue and find your "proper" entrance has a big queue, "flow" will not be in mind. This is what we had when the stadium first opened and why it was changed to allow use of more than one entrance. Like the "separation" of cars and people at the start of last season, it's a stupid idea that won't last more than two matches.
 
Vic said:
Is there a problem with the flow of people inside the stadium? Because there will be now outside the stadium as people will be passing people coming from the direction not nearest their closest entrance and vice versa - and when you pass your alternative entrance with no queue and find your "proper" entrance has a big queue, "flow" will not be in mind. This is what we had when the stadium first opened and why it was changed to allow use of more than one entrance. Like the "separation" of cars and people at the start of last season, it's a stupid idea that won't last more than two matches.
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Its asking for trouble to launch this at an evening ko game. If, 10 mins before kick off, there are huge queues at some entrances and small queues at the adjacent entrance, there's going to be a lot of disgruntled fans.
 
cibaman said:
Its asking for trouble to launch this at an evening ko game. If, 10 mins before kick off, there are huge queues at some entrances and small queues at the adjacent entrance, there's going to be a lot of disgruntled fans.
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Especially when half the disgruntled fans are queuing at the wrong entrance having not bothered reading the info properly.
 
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