Shamima Begum

malg said:
Fuck it, just let her back. What harm will it do? Maybe make it a requisite that she passes her HGV licence before she comes back.
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So long as she agrees to do six months fruit picking as well I’m ok with that.
 
malg said:
Fuck it, just let her back. What harm will it do? Maybe make it a requisite that she passes her HGV licence before she comes back.
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hammocity said:
Ask the majority of Syrians, victims of terror and non believers (even different sects of Muslims) affected by ISIS if she deserves love and understanding, those are the last things she will get and quite rightly. She's lucky to still be alive, bring her back, send her to prison and keep her there beyond her senior years, that will send a punitive message to anyone thinking of doing the same in the future.
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Well, I can't do that, but you bring up a valid point.. despite being ugly (which is of no fault of her own) she also joined a death cult.. which simply has to be taken into consideration in my view.
We could bring her back and put her prison, but 2 wrongs don't make a right
 
Chris B said:
That’s my point: they’d never get the evidence together to try her for any past offences - if there is any, so best to keep her away. I doubt a strong enough case could be put before a court regardless of statements she has made that would seem to incriminate herself to an extent. All too easy for defence team to cloud that with alternative interpretations. If she comes here she’ll be free.

However, there’s plenty enough evidence of potential involvement with ISIS, which is the basis I think she shouldn’t be allowed to enter the UK. Thankfully, the government has a right to make a judgement to keep her out on the basis of national security, which it has in a legal manner as found by the Supreme Court. She’ll never face proper punishment for any crimes she’s been involved in but I can live with that.
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Since when has 'potential' ever been cited as 'certainty'?

I don't need to go through the whole as it's propped up by this one razor thin reasoning!

So, now we accept Begum is 'guilty' on 'hearsay'? This 'trust us'-'oven ready' gov who never lies through its broken teeth?

That is exactly your argument!
 
hammocity said:
Ask the majority of Syrians, victims of terror and non believers (even different sects of Muslims) affected by ISIS if she deserves love and understanding, those are the last things she will get and quite rightly. She's lucky to still be alive, bring her back, send her to prison and keep her there beyond her senior years, that will send a punitive message to anyone thinking of doing the same in the future.
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And the people that joined, actually picked up weapons and fought for Isis before returning to the UK as the gov lost track of them?

A mouthy kid gets the punishment they should have had...?

Good grief...
 
Javed, The Home Secretary at the time, said the decision to remove her citizenship was taken as she was deemed a danger to public safety. Apparently he said, 'If you'd seen what I've seen.' Which, I would assume, meant he was privy to in depth intelligence of atrocities.
There are thousands of causes worth pursuing, I doubt that fretting about this evil individual is high on the public's list of priorities.
 
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