BlueSinclair said:Whats going on really? Are we so clueless and desperate to figure out the problem that we just throw out accusations and make something new up and guess? Unbelievable.
Freestyler said:BlueSinclair said:Whats going on really? Are we so clueless and desperate to figure out the problem that we just throw out accusations and make something new up and guess? Unbelievable.
incorrect, it's been highlighted by alot of people on here and it's MASSIVE weakness in Givens game and our back 4, having a keeper who can command is like an extra defender, we don't have that, this topic has come up so many times, it's not just as a result of todays game this thread, it's starting to become a regular thing now.
BlueSinclair said:Exactly my point too, why go on about it as one of the big incident or points of the game, when he was not at fault today? So we have not had a goalkeeper who can command the area for about 10 years? Seeing how the defence is doing the usual fuck ups no matter what, oh thats right, they did it Hart too, not to long ago. Yes he's young and still learning, but do you really think SUDDENLY Hart has improved SO MUCH that the defensive problem would go away? To god damn easy to blame Given.
I dare anyone to watch the game again and tell us Given is shitting himself at set pieces and all that crap the op is going on about. It's unreal how far you want to go to give him abuse, we get it, you don't think he's good, but do you have to make shit up?
So you`re saying its Givens fault the result today? Maybe because you was watching him so close you didnt notice ireland played like dog shit yet again and a few others.Freestyler said:BlueSinclair said:Exactly my point too, why go on about it as one of the big incident or points of the game, when he was not at fault today? So we have not had a goalkeeper who can command the area for about 10 years? Seeing how the defence is doing the usual fuck ups no matter what, oh thats right, they did it Hart too, not to long ago. Yes he's young and still learning, but do you really think SUDDENLY Hart has improved SO MUCH that the defensive problem would go away? To god damn easy to blame Given.
I dare anyone to watch the game again and tell us Given is shitting himself at set pieces and all that crap the op is going on about. It's unreal how far you want to go to give him abuse, we get it, you don't think he's good, but do you have to make shit up?
i love Given, haven't got a problem with him at all, i think he's a quality player, just highlighting a massive problem in his game, and at the moment i've never seen him play so bad and at times he's a liability, recently i don't know what happened to him, watch the highlights, looks scared on every set-piece.