Shearer on Balotelli

tomhawley said:
That final comment made me laugh at first Mancio...

Then I asked myself - who are the players better than him - currently 21 years old or younger?

Not sure there are many - if any - although I'm sure everyone sees it differently

surely at least shearer and franksinatra sees it differently :-)
 
Mancio said:
franksinatra said:
Skashion said:
He played in ten of those fourteen, admittedly quite a few as a sub. However, you talk about the sub appearances pretty disdainfully and say 'limited influence', but some of his sub appearances were his best this season, Everton (scored the breakthrough goal) - during the fourteen game run, Spurs (won the penalty and put away), QPR (assist for the league-winning goal).

You can claim that me being a fan of Balotelli - and I do admit I'm a fan, distorts my views, but I'm on record as saying there are at least six players who I consider more influential in our side (Hart, Kompany, Yaya, Silva, Aguero and Lescott), so sad times for you. I think your view of me is distorted personally.

The results show us that when we have a full team we are amongst the best in the world (with or without Balo) and that when we take injuries in key positions we are far more ordinary (with or without Balo).

I am much more a City fan than I ever will be a Balotelli fan. I look out for City first, so no, I don't intend to distort the record. I am very sorry you feel that's what I'm doing. Personally, I think I'm one of the most balanced posters on the forum when it comes to this. I don't let my ego get in the way of anything. Some posters let their egos get in the way of everything. I am almost the total opposite. Several years ago I used to call Lescott, 'liability' and said Kolo should be in ahead of him, but I accept I've been proved wrong and now consider him to be more important than Balotelli despite always being a fan of Balotelli. It takes almost total egoless honesty to make a transition like that, especially when one retains one of the original positions i.e. remaining a fan of Balotelli.

Like I said Skashion it wasn’t intended to be a criticism. Please read my comments on any KInkladze threads I would unapologetically support him against any accusation. Maybe I misread your comments but I still think you are overplaying his role in that fantastic run and that’s not me suggesting we wouldn’t have done as well without him either.
Swansea 3-0 (unused sub) Bolton 3-2 (Unused sub) Spurs 5-1 (Unused sub), Wigan 3-0 (sub 72 mins, score at times 3-0), Fulham 2-2 (Unused sub) Everton 2-0 (Balo scored as sub), Blackburn 4-0 (Balo scored) Villa 4-1 (Balo scored) United 6-1 (Balo scored) Wolves 3-1 (Balo sub score at time 2-0), QPR 3-2 (Balo sub 75 mins, score at time 3-2), Newcastle (3-1 balo scored), Liverpool 1-1 (Balo sub and sent off), Norwich 5-1 (Balo sub, score 3-0 at time).

Within the run of 14 games unbeaten , 9 games were already decided in our favour either without Balotellis participation or by the time he was introduced as a sub, with one game finishing a draw after Balotelli was sent off after being introduced as sub . Hence in that run he influenced (heavily, I would say) four of those games. Personally I just don’t think that that equate to your comments that this proves his huge value to the side and proves the snipers wrong. If anything it suggests, like the end of the season, our best runs have come when he has not been a starter.

But as I have stated previously, many other factors influence a game of football so I wouldn’t level that as a criticism of Balotelli. Just think the Balo fans are happy to use stats when it suits their argument but ignore them when they don’t.

Anyway where is Mancio to tell us that Chelsea have offered 70 million for Balo.


should i waste my time with you ? do you honestly think it ??

i'm more than sure you know you are just trolling and that its what i hope , for you. the alternative would be that you are a complete dull idiot , and i don't think this being your case. or one out of the many rags in disguise that infest this board , in a better case.

so quetly go on your way trolling up , becouse i'm sure deep into your mind you know as much as us that balotelli is the best world player in his age.

In fairness Mancio if you read my comments I haven't at any point slated Balotelli are criticised his play. In fact I have gone to great length to state Im not sure whether Balos participation would have influenced the outcome or not. Thereby stating the games he didnt feature and we won I couldnt say whether that was due to his absence or not.

As for the red jibe thats just embarassing pal. Some how I have got a feeling my credentials as a City fan will more than stand up against yours. But im not prepared to start throwing cheap shots at you about your interest in the club and why it manifested itself. Its great to have football fans on the forum with differing stories to why they have devloped an interest in the club.
 
franksinatra said:
Mancio said:
franksinatra said:
Like I said Skashion it wasn’t intended to be a criticism. Please read my comments on any KInkladze threads I would unapologetically support him against any accusation. Maybe I misread your comments but I still think you are overplaying his role in that fantastic run and that’s not me suggesting we wouldn’t have done as well without him either.
Swansea 3-0 (unused sub) Bolton 3-2 (Unused sub) Spurs 5-1 (Unused sub), Wigan 3-0 (sub 72 mins, score at times 3-0), Fulham 2-2 (Unused sub) Everton 2-0 (Balo scored as sub), Blackburn 4-0 (Balo scored) Villa 4-1 (Balo scored) United 6-1 (Balo scored) Wolves 3-1 (Balo sub score at time 2-0), QPR 3-2 (Balo sub 75 mins, score at time 3-2), Newcastle (3-1 balo scored), Liverpool 1-1 (Balo sub and sent off), Norwich 5-1 (Balo sub, score 3-0 at time).

Within the run of 14 games unbeaten , 9 games were already decided in our favour either without Balotellis participation or by the time he was introduced as a sub, with one game finishing a draw after Balotelli was sent off after being introduced as sub . Hence in that run he influenced (heavily, I would say) four of those games. Personally I just don’t think that that equate to your comments that this proves his huge value to the side and proves the snipers wrong. If anything it suggests, like the end of the season, our best runs have come when he has not been a starter.

But as I have stated previously, many other factors influence a game of football so I wouldn’t level that as a criticism of Balotelli. Just think the Balo fans are happy to use stats when it suits their argument but ignore them when they don’t.

Anyway where is Mancio to tell us that Chelsea have offered 70 million for Balo.


should i waste my time with you ? do you honestly think it ??

i'm more than sure you know you are just trolling and that its what i hope , for you. the alternative would be that you are a complete dull idiot , and i don't think this being your case. or one out of the many rags in disguise that infest this board , in a better case.

so quetly go on your way trolling up , becouse i'm sure deep into your mind you know as much as us that balotelli is the best world player in his age.

In fairness Mancio if you read my comments I haven't at any point slated Balotelli are criticised his play. In fact I have gone to great length to state Im not sure whether Balos participation would have influenced the outcome or not. Thereby stating the games he didnt feature and we won I couldnt say whether that was due to his absence or not.

As for the red jibe thats just embarassing pal. Some how I have got a feeling my credentials as a City fan will more than stand up against yours. But im not prepared to start throwing cheap shots at you about your interest in the club and why it manifested itself. Its great to have football fans on the forum with differing stories to why they have devloped an interest in the club.

this is a very good post that make me feel the need to apologise for my previous post , sorry ;)
 
Mancio said:
franksinatra said:
Mancio said:
should i waste my time with you ? do you honestly think it ??

i'm more than sure you know you are just trolling and that its what i hope , for you. the alternative would be that you are a complete dull idiot , and i don't think this being your case. or one out of the many rags in disguise that infest this board , in a better case.

so quetly go on your way trolling up , becouse i'm sure deep into your mind you know as much as us that balotelli is the best world player in his age.

In fairness Mancio if you read my comments I haven't at any point slated Balotelli are criticised his play. In fact I have gone to great length to state Im not sure whether Balos participation would have influenced the outcome or not. Thereby stating the games he didnt feature and we won I couldnt say whether that was due to his absence or not.

As for the red jibe thats just embarassing pal. Some how I have got a feeling my credentials as a City fan will more than stand up against yours. But im not prepared to start throwing cheap shots at you about your interest in the club and why it manifested itself. Its great to have football fans on the forum with differing stories to why they have devloped an interest in the club.

this is a very good post that make me feel the need to apologise for my previous post , sorry ;)

Dont worry there is no need. In fairness I have insulted Skashion whos posts I enjoy, so it must be one of those days for me.

Interestingly Mancio I went over to the Coppa Italia semi-final For AC Milan V Juventus this year. Loved the experience but was shocked at the number of empty seats. My first time at the San Siro since watching a young Ginafranco Zola play for Parma. Really hope the game over there recovers, love the reactions and drama created by the fans.
 
i think its time for a new mario t-shirt.it should have a picture of shearer on it listing all of mario's acheivements under it.think this would look top and make the geordie get look like the muppet that he is.
 
Paul11/12 said:
Shearer, 1 prem? He had the chance to go to UTD twice and achieve something, but chose the extra 5 grand a week both times! Prick!

I think Shearer's punditry is risible at best and downright inept at worst but I still like the fact he didn't go to the rags like Andy 'Call Me Andrew' Cole.
 
bondsman said:
I defy anyone who watched the game last night and were basing a decision of that 90 mins to claim Rooney was a better player than balotelli. Shearer is a badly dressed balding moron who was a fantastic player but horrible pundit

It appeared to me that Rooney has been weighed down for a while with that pube rug.
 
What about Hansen's "He did city a favour getting sent off at Arsenal and missing the rest of the season?" Except for the assist for the goal that won the title of course you prick!
 
I think we're being a bit harsh here on Big Al.

After all at Mario's age he had racked up some 6 England caps and a Full Members Cup final appearance.
Credit it to him.

Jokes aside he did have a very impressive 45 goals in his 148 appearances in his first four years. That is an impressive record no matter how much we think the guy is a bulb...

So this makes it all the more impressive that, Mario who according to many is a liability, inconsistent, rubbish, not worth the hassle blah blah has racked up 55 goals in just 148 appearances since he broke into Inter's team. Add to that his multiple personal accolades and team honours.

Compare that to other leading strikers at the same age.

Rooney. 160/53
Torres. 214/82

Perhaps this is why Mancini is sticking by Mario. His record stands up to anyone in World Football, Fat Ronaldo asides.

We need to realise what a special talent we have on our hands.
 

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