Shootings in Paris

[Ricster]

I still don't understand how the victims in the supermarket took the piss out of Islam and hence deserved to die...can someone clear up the 'eye for an eye' explanation with regards to these people?

Of course they didn't deserve to die but Muslims take great exception to anything they see as disrespect towards Mohammed. Whether you think that's right or not is neither here nor there. The fact is that they do and there is a minority that is prepared to kill over it.

Not all Muslims PB

 

[SWP's back]

But what to you is just taking the piss is, to others, incitement. It's about perception. Can you not see that?

Imagine you go round pubs taking (in your view) the piss out of certain people in those pubs. Some may take it in the right way, some may be offended but decide to ignore you as they don't want trouble but some might take great offence and twat you. In the eyes of the law they're in the wrong if they do twat you but you should have been aware that their reaction was a distinct possibility.

I have highlighted the pertinent point in your post.

Not much consolation when you're lying in a pool of blood though is it? The pertinent part of my post was the bit after the part you highlighted. In the eyes of the law, you may well be considered to have provoked the assault.

What would you expect to happen if you were to wander round the streets of Qatar today tearing up a Koran and giving out copies of Charlie Hebdo with the offending cartoons?

That would be illegal in the eyes of the law.

That wasn't the case in France not the UK.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I still don't understand how the victims in the supermarket took the piss out of Islam and hence deserved to die...can someone clear up the 'eye for an eye' explanation with regards to these people?

Of course they didn't deserve to die but Muslims take great exception to anything they see as disrespect towards Mohammed. Whether you think that's right or not is neither here nor there. The fact is that they do and there is a minority that is prepared to kill over it.

Not all Muslims PB

Certainly not all would take offence but, as has been explained on here, most would to some degree.

 

[goalmole]

I still don't understand how the victims in the supermarket took the piss out of Islam and hence deserved to die...can someone clear up the 'eye for an eye' explanation with regards to these people?

Of course they didn't deserve to die but Muslims take great exception to anything they see as disrespect towards Mohammed. Whether you think that's right or not is neither here nor there. The fact is that they do and there is a minority that is prepared to kill over it.

And they are murderous scum and if people changed what they said, drew or printed so as not to offend them, then they win with bully boy tactics.

It's not a case of winning or losing.
We tend to desist from knowingly offending people just because we feel we can do because we happen to be in a position of strength. It's called magnanimity. Also we usually tend to desist from needlessly offending people when we know there might be consequences. It's called discretion.
As responsible members of society we all modify our speech and behaviour depending on who we are talking to, so as not to knowingly offend people. We do it all day, every day, often without thinking, to facilitate the smooth running of society. If we went ahead and always said what we thought, we would have no friends, family, job and not be able to progress in life. We'd turn into thoroughly unpleasant people who nobody would want to know.

 

[andyhinch]

Of course they didn't deserve to die but Muslims take great exception to anything they see as disrespect towards Mohammed. Whether you think that's right or not is neither here nor there. The fact is that they do and there is a minority that is prepared to kill over it.

And they are murderous scum and if people changed what they said, drew or printed so as not to offend them, then they win with bully boy tactics.

It's not a case of winning or losing.
We tend to desist from knowingly offending people just because we feel we can do because we happen to be in a position of strength. It's called magnanimity. Also we usually tend to desist from needlessly offending people when we know there might be consequences. It's called discretion.
As responsible members of society we all modify our speech and behaviour depending on who we are talking to, so as not to knowingly offend people. We do it all day, every day, often without thinking, to facilitate the smooth running of society. If we went ahead and always said what we thought, we would have no friends, family, job and not be able to progress in life. We'd turn into thoroughly unpleasant people who nobody would want to know.

That's me to a tee, I tend to say what I think, I once asked a boss, exactly what type of fuck Witt are you:)

 

[goalmole]

And they are murderous scum and if people changed what they said, drew or printed so as not to offend them, then they win with bully boy tactics.

It's not a case of winning or losing.
We tend to desist from knowingly offending people just because we feel we can do because we happen to be in a position of strength. It's called magnanimity. Also we usually tend to desist from needlessly offending people when we know there might be consequences. It's called discretion.
As responsible members of society we all modify our speech and behaviour depending on who we are talking to, so as not to knowingly offend people. We do it all day, every day, often without thinking, to facilitate the smooth running of society. If we went ahead and always said what we thought, we would have no friends, family, job and not be able to progress in life. We'd turn into thoroughly unpleasant people who nobody would want to know.

That's me to a tee, I tend to say what I think, I once asked a boss, exactly what type of fuck Witt are you:)

That would go a long way to explaining your 21657 posts on this forum in less than 3 years.

 

[andyhinch]

It's not a case of winning or losing.
We tend to desist from knowingly offending people just because we feel we can do because we happen to be in a position of strength. It's called magnanimity. Also we usually tend to desist from needlessly offending people when we know there might be consequences. It's called discretion.
As responsible members of society we all modify our speech and behaviour depending on who we are talking to, so as not to knowingly offend people. We do it all day, every day, often without thinking, to facilitate the smooth running of society. If we went ahead and always said what we thought, we would have no friends, family, job and not be able to progress in life. We'd turn into thoroughly unpleasant people who nobody would want to know.

That's me to a tee, I tend to say what I think, I once asked a boss, exactly what type of fuck Witt are you:)

That would go a long way to explaining your 21657 posts on this forum in less than 3 years.

No and it was about 6 years ago

 

[scotty123]

The Islamist gunman who murdered the people in the Kosher supermarket and murdered the police woman also shot and badly wounded a jogger in the Paris suburb of Fontenay Aux Roses on the Wednesday
Ballistics on the cartridge cases found at the scene matched the gun used in the supermarket, perhaps Islamists have taken a dislike to people jogging now!

 

[foxy]

Just seen this but the Hamburger Morgenpost HQ was fire bombed for reposting images from Charlie Hebdo.

Many on here will turn a blind eye and sympathise with the arsonists. Not that I agree with their principles or actions but if it was EDL or anti muslim protesters attacking a mosque then the same people will be strongly condemning it.

 

[west didsblue]

I still don't understand how the victims in the supermarket took the piss out of Islam and hence deserved to die...can someone clear up the 'eye for an eye' explanation with regards to these people?

Collateral damage, our American friends would call it.

You clearly don't understand the definition of collateral damage. The Jewish supermarket was targeted because it was Jewish. The victims of that attack were the target. Still waiting for your response as to what action provoked that reaction.