Shootings in Paris

[stony]

I don't post for respect and care not if yours is not given.

Then I hope you're happy in your ignorance.
I for one will not hold anything you post on this topic with any regard from here on in.

Do what you want.

I stopped holding anything you post with any regard ages ago.

Haha. How old are you?

 

[johnmc]

I never said it was my belief homosexuality was a choice. I said I wasn't aware of any definitive evidence that was universally accepted to prove or disprove "are you born gay". Does that make me a homophobe?. No it doesn't.

Show me where I said this?.

You're trying to railroad me into a discussion on homosexuality. Probably to try and out me (no pun intended) as a homophobe. You were struggling to keep up and tried to steer me elsewhere.

I have no issue with homosexuality. If you want to start a thread debating "are you born gay", do so, I may even join in if you like.

I've added the posts below which clearly refute your wide of the mark accusations. Read them slowly so you can absorb my answers.





I hope that clears that up.

Doesn't clear anything up other than your ignorance.

Ignorance about what?. Gay people?. Why are you so uptight about it?.

You say there is no definitive evidence whether homosexuality is a choice in a thread largely about religion! You have said that you can see how Muslims have been provoked by the cartoons mocking Mohammed. Do you have definite proof that Mohammed existed as chronicled? A universally accepted research to prove or disprove he existed? I'd love to have a link if you do?

The authenticity of the Quran, the bible etc are unascertainable. So is it only certain topics you need a universally accepted thesis to be able to make your mind up.

A question, as you seem you ask some yourself. What religion are you, if any. I think earlier in the thread you said you werent a Muslim. Don't answer if you don't want to or don't feel pertinent by the way.

 

[Anonymous]

Then I hope you're happy in your ignorance.
I for one will not hold anything you post on this topic with any regard from here on in.

Do what you want.

I stopped holding anything you post with any regard ages ago.

Haha. How old are you?

Coming from a grown up using emojis.

Well I laughed.

 

[Anonymous]

Doesn't clear anything up other than your ignorance.

Ignorance about what?. Gay people?. Why are you so uptight about it?.

You say there is no definitive evidence whether homosexuality is a choice in a thread largely about religion! You have said that you can see how Muslims have been provoked by the cartoons mocking Mohammed. Do you have definite proof that Mohammed existed as chronicled? A universally accepted research to prove or disprove he existed? I'd love to have a link if you do?

The authenticity of the Quran, the bible etc are unascertainable. So is it only certain topics you need a universally accepted thesis to be able to make your mind up.

A question, as you seem you ask some yourself. What religion are you, if any. I think earlier in the thread you said you werent a Muslim. Don't answer if you don't want to or don't feel pertinent by the way.

John, for the last time, I didn't say that. Read the post (again, slowly) FFS.

Have you started that thread yet?.

Edit:

I am not a Muslim, I do not follow any form of any religion, I was not raised religious, I was never christened, I never attended a religious school, my parents are not religious.

This doesn't mean I have no understanding of religion, as a matter of fact I have always taken a keen interest in it. Without ever practicing any of its doctrine.

 

[johnmc]

Ignorance about what?. Gay people?. Why are you so uptight about it?.

You say there is no definitive evidence whether homosexuality is a choice in a thread largely about religion! You have said that you can see how Muslims have been provoked by the cartoons mocking Mohammed. Do you have definite proof that Mohammed existed as chronicled? A universally accepted research to prove or disprove he existed? I'd love to have a link if you do?

The authenticity of the Quran, the bible etc are unascertainable. So is it only certain topics you need a universally accepted thesis to be able to make your mind up.

A question, as you seem you ask some yourself. What religion are you, if any. I think earlier in the thread you said you werent a Muslim. Don't answer if you don't want to or don't feel pertinent by the way.

John, for the last time, I didn't say that. Read the post (again, slowly) FFS.

Have you started that thread yet?.

No. No need as I know what the universal answer will be.

Nice swerve though.

 

[jamie woods]

The pope has waded in by saying there needs to be respect shown for people's ideals of not depicting their prophet.

 

[Anonymous]

You say there is no definitive evidence whether homosexuality is a choice in a thread largely about religion! You have said that you can see how Muslims have been provoked by the cartoons mocking Mohammed. Do you have definite proof that Mohammed existed as chronicled? A universally accepted research to prove or disprove he existed? I'd love to have a link if you do?

The authenticity of the Quran, the bible etc are unascertainable. So is it only certain topics you need a universally accepted thesis to be able to make your mind up.

A question, as you seem you ask some yourself. What religion are you, if any. I think earlier in the thread you said you werent a Muslim. Don't answer if you don't want to or don't feel pertinent by the way.

John, for the last time, I didn't say that. Read the post (again, slowly) FFS.

Have you started that thread yet?.

No. No need as I know what the universal answer will be.

Nice swerve though.

That's a shame, I was willing to join in. ;-o

I edited my post above, no swerve intended.

 

[johnmc]

Give over girls!

The Pope has commented, sensibly I think:

The Pope says people 'cannot insult the faith of others', adding that he would punch someone if they offended his mother, as he debated freedom of speech in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack. The Pontiff said there were limits to freedom of expression and that 'provocateurs' should not purposely anger religious people.

Speaking on board the papal plane on his way to the Philippines, he also insisted that it was an 'aberration' to kill in the name of God and that religion can never be used to justify violence. The Pope says people 'cannot insult the faith of others', adding that he would punch someone if they offended his mother, as he debated freedom of speech in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack.

The Pontiff said there were limits to freedom of expression and that 'provocateurs' should not purposely anger religious people. Speaking on board the papal plane on his way to the Philippines, he also insisted that it was an 'aberration' to kill in the name of God and that religion can never be used to justify violence.

On one hand he rejects violence and on the other says sometimes it's justified.

 

[johnmc]

John, for the last time, I didn't say that. Read the post (again, slowly) FFS.

Have you started that thread yet?.

No. No need as I know what the universal answer will be.

Nice swerve though.

That's a shame, I was willing to join in. ;-o

I edited my post above, no swerve intended.

Fair play. I've never known anyone who has such a keen interest in religion without themselves being religious. So, on a serious note, you must see good and bad in every religion and given you are interested in all religions you must know that given all the different theories they all can't be correct and likely therefore than none are and religion is merely a vehicle.

 

[scotty123]

BBC reporting three killed in a counter-terror raid in Belgium.

Some of the missing 6 from the Paris Islamic terrorist cell, I wonder!

They knew the Couachi Bros been in touch with them for weeks, also looking for the Couachi Bros contacts in Spain, probably in Seville

 

[Anonymous]

No. No need as I know what the universal answer will be.

Nice swerve though.

That's a shame, I was willing to join in. ;-o

I edited my post above, no swerve intended.

Fair play. I've never known anyone who has such a keen interest in religion without themselves being religious. So, on a serious note, you must see good and bad in every religion and given you are interested in all religions you must know that given all the different theories they all can't be correct and likely therefore than none are and religion is merely a vehicle.

Now you have. Nice to meet you. I'm sure there are many of us out there. Many non religious students even study Theology, weird eh.?

I don't necessarily see good and bad in every religion per se. Although looking at some of it through modern westernised eyes. It is enough to raise an eyebrow or two but that is why I have spoken about moderation so much in previous posts.

Obviously those who take religion to the extreme and use it to hurt others should be dealt with swiftly. I do see this as vital for human cohesion in the future.

I am yet to meet a single fanatical religious person from any faith in all my years on earth. I wouldn't mix with somebody who would deliberately go out of their way to offend somebody for their beliefs. Or use their beliefs as a reason to hurt others (the extremists). Freedom of speech is essential to a free and democratic society. I would just hope we could show some restraint and not lampoon others just because it is legal to do so.

Do you now admit I said "I wasn't aware of any definitive evidence, that is universally accepted, of somebody being born gay?." I never once said it was somebody's choice to be gay?.

I guess you must do as you have failed to show me where I have said otherwise (even though you accused me of this on more than one occasion.)

 

[BlueHammer85]

I hate the usual conspiracy theories after every major news story. But this one is bugging me a little ...
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-uncensored-footage-paris-terror-attack-raises-serious-questions/200732/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-unce ... ns/200732/</a>

Why is there no blood at all ? I get it's not Hollywood, but even if the bullet hit him elsewhere the footage would show blood ?

 

[i kne albert davy]

I hate the usual conspiracy theories after every major news story. But this one is bugging me a little ...
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-uncensored-footage-paris-terror-attack-raises-serious-questions/200732/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-unce ... ns/200732/</a>

Why is there no blood at all ? I get it's not Hollywood, but even if the bullet hit him elsewhere the footage would show blood ?

Not really filmed on a mobile check footage from WW! and WW2 of men shot blood doesn't always spurt every where, what would be the point in faking it,I for one wouldn't fancy putting this theory to the officers nearest and dearest.

 

[Citizen in Pakistan]

I hate the usual conspiracy theories after every major news story. But this one is bugging me a little ...
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-uncensored-footage-paris-terror-attack-raises-serious-questions/200732/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-unce ... ns/200732/</a>

Why is there no blood at all ? I get it's not Hollywood, but even if the bullet hit him elsewhere the footage would show blood ?

Sky news was reported saying blood has been put there <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3v8pqosC20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3v8pqosC20</a>
what i dont understand is after the lies you have been sponken though i really appreciate how people in uk stood up against the war in iraq ,why do you continue to belive everything which main stream media says,why cant you just may be think on the other lines,people ignore the fact that "who benifits from it ? " even if you disregard that,why not just think there is something more to it

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I hate the usual conspiracy theories after every major news story. But this one is bugging me a little ...
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-uncensored-footage-paris-terror-attack-raises-serious-questions/200732/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-unce ... ns/200732/</a>

Why is there no blood at all ? I get it's not Hollywood, but even if the bullet hit him elsewhere the footage would show blood ?

Sky news was reported saying blood has been put there <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3v8pqosC20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3v8pqosC20</a>
what i dont understand is after the lies you have been sponken though i really appreciate how people in uk stood up against the war in iraq ,why do you continue to belive everything which main stream media says,why cant you just may be think on the other lines,people ignore the fact that "who benifits from it ? " even if you disregard that,why not just think there is something more to it

Are you saying that the French cop didn't die but was spirited away?

 

[Barcon]

I think somebody's had one too many Shirley temples.

 

[Barcon]

I hate the usual conspiracy theories after every major news story. But this one is bugging me a little ...
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-uncensored-footage-paris-terror-attack-raises-serious-questions/200732/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-unce ... ns/200732/</a>

Why is there no blood at all ? I get it's not Hollywood, but even if the bullet hit him elsewhere the footage would show blood ?

Sky news was reported saying blood has been put there <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3v8pqosC20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3v8pqosC20</a>
what i dont understand is after the lies you have been sponken though i really appreciate how people in uk stood up against the war in iraq ,why do you continue to belive everything which main stream media says,why cant you just may be think on the other lines,people ignore the fact that "who benifits from it ? " even if you disregard that,why not just think there is something more to it

Are you saying that the French cop didn't die but was spirited away?

Sponken away. Don't be thick.

 

[TangerineSteve17]

It appears to me that the final shot missed. Now I think of myself if I was the policeman, do I continue to move or try my best to play dead? Possibly he decided to stay still but ultimately died from blood loss from the earlier shots that hit him to the body.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

It appears to me that the final shot missed. Now I think of myself if I was the policeman, do I continue to move or try my best to play dead? Possibly he decided to stay still but ultimately died from blood loss from the earlier shots that hit him to the body.

Maybe he did but he was still murdered, nevertheless.

 

[johnmc]

That's a shame, I was willing to join in. ;-o

I edited my post above, no swerve intended.

Fair play. I've never known anyone who has such a keen interest in religion without themselves being religious. So, on a serious note, you must see good and bad in every religion and given you are interested in all religions you must know that given all the different theories they all can't be correct and likely therefore than none are and religion is merely a vehicle.

Now you have. Nice to meet you. I'm sure there are many of us out there. Many non religious students even study Theology, weird eh.?

I don't necessarily see good and bad in every religion per se. Although looking at some of it through modern westernised eyes. It is enough to raise an eyebrow or two but that is why I have spoken about moderation so much in previous posts.

Obviously those who take religion to the extreme and use it to hurt others should be dealt with swiftly. I do see this as vital for human cohesion in the future.

I am yet to meet a single fanatical religious person from any faith in all my years on earth. I wouldn't mix with somebody who would deliberately go out of their way to offend somebody for their beliefs. Or use their beliefs as a reason to hurt others (the extremists). Freedom of speech is essential to a free and democratic society. I would just hope we could show some restraint and not lampoon others just because it is legal to do so.

Do you now admit I said "I wasn't aware of any definitive evidence, that is universally accepted, of somebody being born gay?." I never once said it was somebody's choice to be gay?.

I guess you must do as you have failed to show me where I have said otherwise (even though you accused me of this on more than one occasion.)

Nice to meet you too. In my eyes, the very sentence "I'm not aware of any definitive evidence" is the same as saying you are unsure and you couldn't commit either way. Again in my eyes, this notion is ludicrous. The very fact that many people have hidden their homosexuality out of shame shows its not a choice people make freely. But that's my opinion and we will leave that there if you want with specific regard to that subject.

Connected but not on the exact sanme topic is you not committing to your own view as there is the absence of studies and a universally accepted view. I find that comment from a religious student like yourself fairly strange. Is there a universally accepted view with regards religion. Are any of the mainstream religions bourne out of absolute fact?