Should Fee-Paying Private(?) Schools be abolished?

[Damocles]

This is what makes me laugh about the lefty scum and shows them as the real nazis.

Surely if we all lived in the lefty utopia they talk of we'd ALL have the free choice to educate our children how we see fit, whether that means home schooling, state education OR fee paying. Or am I right in believing that the leftists only 'pro choice' as long as it matches their own wayward mindset?

I'm a proper lefty. You send your kids to Nazi propaganda schools is you feel the need to, as long as it meets the proper standards of Maths and English

 

[Fame Monster]

People are smarter than others because they focus on mentally challenging activities more than others during their development stages, which leads into a mental framework which is used to adapting information. Look up Piaget's theory of Cognitive Development; I actually did my dissertation on this.

Even though this is entirely irrelevant to what we're discussing, I've actually come across Piaget's theory before. My understanding of it is that it is very outdated because Kohlberg came up with a far better social explanation of learning. That said, biological conditions should not be understated either because many hormonal chemicals have an undisputed effect on how a child learns a gender role.

This is what makes me laugh about the lefty scum and shows them as the real nazis.

Surely if we all lived in the lefty utopia they talk of we'd ALL have the free choice to educate our children how we see fit, whether that means home schooling, state education OR fee paying. Or am I right in believing that the leftists only 'pro choice' as long as it matches their own wayward mindset?

I'm a proper lefty. You send your kids to Nazi propaganda schools is you feel the need to, as long as it meets the proper standards of Maths and English

If you send your child to a Nazi propaganda school, the state should interfere as the child's psychological wellbeing is being harmed, just like they should interfere if a parent damages the physical wellbeing of a child. I imagine the state would be subsidising this Nazi school as well?


Back on to the original question, I didn't think my idea for equal opportunity would be so difficult to grasp.

 

[bluemoon32]

Lefties usually want to stop us sending our kids to an elite school but think it's fine if they do, the modern day Labour Party is full of them.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

This is what makes me laugh about the lefty scum and shows them as the real nazis.

Surely if we all lived in the lefty utopia they talk of we'd ALL have the free choice to educate our children how we see fit, whether that means home schooling, state education OR fee paying. Or am I right in believing that the leftists only 'pro choice' as long as it matches their own wayward mindset?

I'm a proper lefty. You send your kids to Nazi propaganda schools is you feel the need to, as long as it meets the proper standards of Maths and English

So the criteria for being a socialist nowadays means allowing the freedom to crackpots to teach fascism, bile and hatred to young kids?
Didn't we conclude that this was a bad idea on the 'should kids be taught religion in schools' thread?
At least,most of us did.
Evidently we must be improper lefties,as I thought we proved our case comprehensively,to use an apposite adverb.

 

[Skashion]

I think the point was probably that proper lefties believe in freedom - though I do not believe this to be the case. That freedom being that as long as the state does not fund the school, it has no right to enforce what is taught there; and certainly does not have the right to tell parents what schools they have to send their kids to.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

I think the point was probably that proper lefties believe in freedom - though I do not believe this to be the case. That freedom being that as long as the state does not fund the school, it has no right to enforce what is taught there; and certainly does not have the right to tell parents what schools they have to send their kids to.

Point taken,but is not absolute freedom manifested in a political doctrine nearer to anarchism than socialism?
Most anarchists I have ever known have not aligned themselves to either the left or the right,contrary to popular misconception,and view themselves as a viable alternative to both,if they subscribe to the worldviews of people such as Bakunin or Kropotkin.
I am as big an advocate of individual freedom as the next person,but I draw the line at teaching hatred or unproveable superstition to children,be that in the guise of sectarian bigotry,the nonsense of creationism,or the brainwashing of any extremist political theory.

 

[Skashion]

I think the point was probably that proper lefties believe in freedom - though I do not believe this to be the case. That freedom being that as long as the state does not fund the school, it has no right to enforce what is taught there; and certainly does not have the right to tell parents what schools they have to send their kids to.

Point taken,but is not absolute freedom manifested in a political doctrine nearer to anarchism than socialism?
Most anarchists I have ever known have not aligned themselves to either the left or the right,contrary to popular misconception,and view themselves as a viable alternative to both,if they subscribe to the worldviews of people such as Bakunin or Kropotkin.

I am as big an advocate of individual freedom as the next person,but I draw the line at teaching hatred or unproveable superstition to children,be that in the guise of sectarian bigotry,the nonsense of creationism,or the brainwashing of any extremist political theory.

My point was simply that most people are not libertarians and that those who are can be of the left or right on the values which should underpin the economy. You can be a libertarian and argue for collectivised property owned by the workers, or a libertarian who argues for private property.

It is abhorrent admittedly but we cannot live in a world where children are not exposed to the views of their parents. The only way to ensure against this would be to take children from their parents, or have 24/7 monitoring within our homes. Those alternatives really aren't too good. I think the best we can hope for is that there will be a few lunatic schools for religions or ideologies etc. which the taxpayer has no role in funding.