Sinead O'Connor RIP

mackenzie said:
I had the same reaction to her. Often wondered if her account of her childhood was exaggerated but then, a few years back, I read her brother Joseph say how damaging their mother was. Joseph is also incredibly talented. I read his book "Star of the Sea" about 20 years ago (without knowing he was her brother) and I loved it. Must read it again sometime.

I think "identity" is crucial to a person's psyche and I get the sense with Sinead that throughout her life this was an immense struggle for her, because if your Mother is a fuck up (and hers undoubtedly was) then your sense of where you stand in relation to everyone, and everything, else is completely out of kilter. She seemed to drift between things, often contradicting herself; "trying on a new persona" every so often to see if it "fit."

Her voice and her music was the one thing that she could completely rely on.
Her early performances are magical, and it's hard to take your eyes off her.
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There is a documentary on Sky which covers her early life and career. It’s very good albeit sad. She was physically and emotionally abused by her mother and then spent some time in care looked after by nuns. As punishment when sh3 misbehaved she was made to sleep in the womens asylum which seemed to damaged her Deeply. She never got over her upbringing but was an honest campaigner against child abuse and for womens rights. Many of her beliefs and protests would seem very current today but were often misunderstood or mocked back in the 80’s. With more support and understanding she could have become an even greater iconic artist and force for good. She made mistakes but often freely admitted them and apologised. Her first album was very good, the second a stone cold classic.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
There is a documentary on Sky which covers her early life and career. It’s very good albeit sad. She was physically and emotionally abused by her mother and then spent some time in care looked after by nuns. As punishment when sh3 misbehaved she was made to sleep in the womens asylum which seemed to damaged her Deeply. She never got over her upbringing but was an honest campaigner against child abuse and for womens rights. Many of her beliefs and protests would seem very current today but were often misunderstood or mocked back in the 80’s. With more support and understanding she could have become an even greater iconic artist and force for good. She made mistakes but often freely admitted them and apologised. Her first album was very good, the second a stone cold classic.
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Yes, I've read that. Watched the SKY docu last night.
I never really got her later allegiance to the Islamic Faith though, and this where she confuses the hell out of me. It is probably even worse than the Catholicism of Ireland when it comes to the subjugation of women.
I never doubted her sincerity but I do question her decisions. I just think she was "lost" but tried desperately to find an anchor (of any description).
 
Been having a listen to her first two albums this week.
It's been a while.
I must admit I did shed a little tear on occasion. What a voice she had.
I can normally put a semi coherent description to a voice, but hers is one I can't put my finger on.
She could sing happy fucking birthday and make it sound beautiful.
There are other good,
great singers with more range, lots of them, but not many have that ability to do the subtle vocal gymnastics within a song, or even a verse, or a line in a song, that she could do.
Whisper and shout in one word, angry and happy the next.
Sometimes I feel she tells you she loves you in that quiet, melancholic way, just so she can bollock you for something completely unrelated that happened 200 years ago..

Imagine being in the studio hearing those first few recordings, you'd be gobsmacked I imagine.
She had a certain innocence in the first few years of her career, gave her all, but quickly realised the cesspit she was getting involved with.
I get the impression she didn't ever realise how good she was, or how much she was loved, a reluctant hero perhaps.
RIP angry angel x
 
This is how I like to remember her, when she smiled she let us in, briefly.
My favourite 3 people, making us all laugh.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
There is a documentary on Sky which covers her early life and career. It’s very good albeit sad. She was physically and emotionally abused by her mother and then spent some time in care looked after by nuns. As punishment when sh3 misbehaved she was made to sleep in the womens asylum which seemed to damaged her Deeply. She never got over her upbringing but was an honest campaigner against child abuse and for womens rights. Many of her beliefs and protests would seem very current today but were often misunderstood or mocked back in the 80’s. With more support and understanding she could have become an even greater iconic artist and force for good. She made mistakes but often freely admitted them and apologised. Her first album was very good, the second a stone cold classic.
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Great post.
I have her first album slightly better than her second, if only for the absolute brilliance of 'mandinka' which arrives early and really resets your ears, she should have made more up beat tracks like this.
Drink before the war is just beautiful, maybe my favourite. The vocal is superb.
I get why you would prefer her 2nd though.
 
crublue1 said:
Been having a listen to her first two albums this week.
It's been a while.
I must admit I did shed a little tear on occasion. What a voice she had.
I can normally put a semi coherent description to a voice, but hers is one I can't put my finger on.
She could sing happy fucking birthday and make it sound beautiful.
There are other good,
great singers with more range, lots of them, but not many have that ability to do the subtle vocal gymnastics within a song, or even a verse, or a line in a song, that she could do.
Whisper and shout in one word, angry and happy the next.
Sometimes I feel she tells you she loves you in that quiet, melancholic way, just so she can bollock you for something completely unrelated that happened 200 years ago..

Imagine being in the studio hearing those first few recordings, you'd be gobsmacked I imagine.
She had a certain innocence in the first few years of her career, gave her all, but quickly realised the cesspit she was getting involved with.
I get the impression she didn't ever realise how good she was, or how much she was loved, a reluctant hero perhaps.
RIP angry angel x
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Nailed it. That voice. The ability to go from pitch perfect whisper to full throated roar in an instant. Unique I think.
 
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