Sir Waistcoat FFS (P65)

RegisteredToSeePhotos said:
This is bollocks.

England matches have been getting large TV viewing figures long before Southgate became manager but just because a lot of people are watching an event on TV at the same time doesn't mean there's peace and harmony across the land and everyone's singing Kumbaya together.
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No, instead of that they set off fireworks after every win and upset animals.

Good post, the media narrative that we were all unified as a nation wanting them to win after Brexit got on my tits, even more than in 1999 in which the whole country wanted the European Cup to go to Ragville.
 
ShorehamCitizen said:
They definitely have say, whoever decided on this is someone who is involved with them who doesn’t understand football.
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It's the government of the day that dish out gongs not royalty. You can always go and live in Ireland and watch them hand out gongs because what you don't like here they want a piece of over there.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
I know I am in a small minority here but while yes he ultimately fell short, I have an abundance of respect for what Southgate did on a diplomatic level. There's a lot of revisionism here - for several years during his tenure he genuinely brought the country together and restored a healthy kind of national pride - something all our politicians could never achieve, and nor has any England manager in a long time.

Whether that deserves a knighthood isn't really for any of us to say, but there is a lot to like about Waistcoat. It's not about rewarding failure, it's about service, and nobody can criticise Southgate for his lack of service. He represented the country at the highest level on the international stage with class and dignity and that deserves to be recognised.

He is a proper gentleman in a sport awash with flashy arrogant cunts and there's a lot to be said for that.

He probably isn't an elite level football manager or coach, but IMO we could do far worse than putting him in charge of the FA for example, or even in a role at the DCMS.
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Well said, worked wonders with England, bought through so many youngsters, often we had the youngest squad in tournaments, led us to 2 major finals and like you say bought togetherness within the camp at all times - along with being a decent human being.

shame the abuse he had to get and still continues by the hate mob online.
 
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