Slavery

[Stephen230]

"He was placed in a line-up of ten Negroes..........."

It's used regularly throughout the 1,000 or so word newspaper article.


You assuming I am American, does lead me to assume you have somewhat of a narrow mind and see what you want to see and believe what you want to believe and if it's not apparent, then you'll find a way to make sure it is.

Well if you actually made it clear you were quoting a newspaper originally, instead of using a word in your own text that you later claim was taken from a quote, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

And I didn’t assume you were American. I guessed you were. There was a question mark at the end of my guess to show it was a question. I find punctuation such as question marks and quotation marks sometimes help avoid misunderstandings.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Seriously?

You haven't moved out of your mum's basement yet, have you?

Mate I am 62 and own my home outright - one of us needs to grow up and it ain't me

 

[Donmcfc]

We could investigate how many peasants Prince Phillip shot.


edit... I meant pheasants....

In a TV interview Michael Heseltine boasted that he had personally shot over 400 squirrels that he claimed were damaging his trees.

 

[mexico1970]

A three year study? That's a gig I'd like to be involved with.......

Day one.

It happened, close case.

3 years of jollies ensue.

 

[Lavinda Past]

In a TV interview Michael Heseltine boasted that he had personally shot over 400 squirrels that he claimed were damaging his trees.

There's probably a wall full of squirrel heads on plaques in his house to prove it.

You have be some serious sort of **** to enjoy killing any creature.

 

[domalino]

Good on you, but King Charles wants to find out the Royal involvement in slavery 250 years ago, don’t see a problem in that.

The arguments against this are bizarre.

First we had “you can’t erase history” which is a pretty stupid way of describing commissioning a historic study.

Next we had “what about all the German companies involved in the holocaust” which we know about precisely because people went back with a fine toothed comb over historical records to see who was involved.

Now we’ve got “what about modern slavery?” As if the historians at the University of Manchester carrying out this study should give up their jobs and join the police.

Not to mention the laughable pleas about it wasting money. How much do you think university historians get paid? What do you think the costs are of letting a couple of PhD students and lecturers into the Palace Archives to study old documents?


And what for? Why are a few posters so scared of the idea that we might find out how involved the Royal family was in slavery? How’s it going to change your life if we find out if this royal or that was pro or anti abolition, or had stakes in slave ships?

 

[mexico1970]

 

[domalino]

Pulling down statues for instance, only hides what happened and is perhaps an effort to eradicate history. Why not leave them there and put something educational alongside it so that people can read it and learn...........trust me, then people can actually decide for themselves.

Don’t eradicate history says man raging against the commission of a historical study!


How can you not see the irony of this? You desperately don’t want history to be erased and think people should educate themselves but are arguing against historians looking into the past so we can all be better educated.

 

[KPXBLN]

Completed in 2026..........what a waste of money.

They're studying a relationship from history when attitudes and way of life were very different to today. Many things, and not just slavery, were wrong by today's standards.

You can't erase history, although many appear to be trying hard to do so.

Instead of trying to remove it, we should be exposing all areas of it and learning from what was done, not running around blaming and apologizing for it.

Commercial slavery has gone on as far back in history as you want to go, why the emphasis on 'black slavery' from years ago............shouldn't the emphasis be on tackling the slavery and human trafficking going on in todays world, or doesn't that fit nicely into a political/social agenda.

I don't understand all this apologizing for things done generations before us. By todays standards, it's rightly abhorrent, but not back then. Am I to expect an apology from Italy because the jolly ol' Romans took some of my ancestors as slaves? How far do we go back, only as far as Africans?

Commercial slavery has been a business throughout the world, throughout time.

The focus should be on today's slavery, because that we can do something about, we can't when it was committed 200 years ago!!

We shouldn't be accountable for what past generations did.

A relative of mine emigrated over to the US in the 1800's. He was shot dead, his money stolen and he and his store doused with kerosene and set alight.
Two negroes were responsible. Am I to expect an apology from their families for what these two people did?
I find it hard to understand how they could be responsible in any way for something that was done by people they didn't know, in a different era of time.

there’s a lot of reasons this is bollocks, beginning with the giveaway vocabulary, but one of them is the fact that if these two guys were caught they wouldn’t get to keep the stolen property. Whereas slavery, with the support of politicians and courts, was legal for centuries. Huge fortunes were established as a result, which in many cases the heirs of which enjoy to this day.

 

[mexico1970]

there’s a lot of reasons this is bollocks, beginning with the giveaway vocabulary, but one of them is the fact that if these two guys were caught they wouldn’t get to keep the stolen property. Whereas slavery, with the support of politicians and courts, was legal for centuries. Huge fortunes were established as a result, which in many cases the heirs of which enjoy to this day.

Rich people making money off the backs of poor people whoda thunk it, being a serf was no less a slave when you were effectively tied to the land whilst your lord and master raked it in.

This is all about the sound of the kerching, nothing else.