I didn't say drinkers don't have an effect on other people's lives - I said that generally it only directly caused health problems for the drinker
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I didn't say drinkers don't have an effect on other people's lives - I said that generally it only directly caused health problems for the drinker
The point being ? That people can last all game without a ciggy ? Agreed.
Arguments that people can last all game without a drink or food or have to leave early ?
And the logic is ?
A lost cause ? Nope. I support City.
Zzzzzz. Believe what you like. Breathe in the bog fog - hope you enjoy it
PragueBlue
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I didn't say drinkers don't have an effect on other people's lives - I said that generally it only directly caused health problems for the drinker
Depends on what you class as a health issue. Alcohol is frequently a factor in injury to others.
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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Was trying to work out what your point was, then I remembered. You're the hilarious master of sarcasm, are you not? "Busy ****?". Brilliantly funny, well done.I’m not furtive about smoking. I don’t smoke. I happen to think adults should be able to smoke at the match. And drink. And swear. Otherwise it becomes the sanitised shite that masquerades as “fandom” at Rugby fucking Union. It’s one of the (increasingly) rare opportunities for folk to vent their spleen, have a bevvy and, God forbid, the odd bifter. Getting antsy, uptight, self-righteous and all “it’s the law” bollocks is for the anodyne, Ra-Ra Twickenham lot, not a football crowd in Manchester.
Blokes smoke. At the match. Move on, nothing to see (unless you’re a busy ****).
Depends on what you class as a health issue. Alcohol is frequently a factor in injury to others.
And at that point it becomes illegal, just like smoking is.
PragueBlue
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And at that point it becomes illegal, just like smoking is.
It's banned in the stadium but not sure if that makes it illegal or not. I wasn't arguing that smoking in the ground was ok but the comment made that alcohol causes no harm to others. I agree that smokers shouldn't smoke in an enclosed area but it wouldn't seem that difficult to provide some outdoor area for them.
BlueSkyBlue
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As an ex smoker I see both sides of the story - I can understand the 'need for a cig' at half time and how annoyed I used to get if someone told me it wasn't my right to do so (I never smoked in the ground though)
Since giving up smoking, I also understand the walk into the bogs at half time is nothing short of minging.
What I don't understand is if smokers feel so strongly about it, why are they hiding away in the toilets and why do the same lads and ladies not light up in their seat or even take a beer into the stand witth them.
The non smoking rules are mainly there to stop something like the Bradford fire happening again, much like the sitting rules are there to stop another Hillsborough and the beer rules to stop us getting absolutely sh*ters and throwing up over the granny in front or peeing on the floor/guy in front leg like we did in the standing days.
Regardless of what smokers think or want - the rules will not change, and if you risk breaking them them you all know the punishments that can occur. That is the risk you sadly take - but to then take umbridge with the rules once you are caught is childish and pointless.
PS I saw someone thrown out for smoking in the new South Stand bogs...but three guys openly applying for Bolivian passports via their nasal cavities were left in....
Since giving up smoking, I also understand the walk into the bogs at half time is nothing short of minging.
What I don't understand is if smokers feel so strongly about it, why are they hiding away in the toilets and why do the same lads and ladies not light up in their seat or even take a beer into the stand witth them.
The non smoking rules are mainly there to stop something like the Bradford fire happening again, much like the sitting rules are there to stop another Hillsborough and the beer rules to stop us getting absolutely sh*ters and throwing up over the granny in front or peeing on the floor/guy in front leg like we did in the standing days.
Regardless of what smokers think or want - the rules will not change, and if you risk breaking them them you all know the punishments that can occur. That is the risk you sadly take - but to then take umbridge with the rules once you are caught is childish and pointless.
PS I saw someone thrown out for smoking in the new South Stand bogs...but three guys openly applying for Bolivian passports via their nasal cavities were left in....
stonerblue
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half time joint on the spirals every time.
Sc0tt
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Stop smoking in the bogs like naughty schoolboys, if you want a smoke have one out in the open or even in the stands like a man. see what happens.
or you could 'Give it up for City' TM
or you could 'Give it up for City' TM
Bilboblue
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Blokes smoke. At the match. Move on, nothing to see (unless you’re a busy ****).
I'd rather be a busy ****, than a selfish ****.
mosssideblue
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+1.I'd rather be a busy ****, than a selfish ****.
BlueTangerine
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I'd rather be a busy ****, than a selfish ****.
Agreed. I couldn't give a shit about this "busy ****" label that gets banded about. The science is sketchy (I believe) so the what it comes down to is consideration. It's like people intentionally/needlessly letting off stink bombs or basically just shitting all over floor knowing others have to wade through it to user the bog. It's weird behaviour.
Having said that, make the smell of burning cig a nice smell and I would give almost 100% less of a shit about the whole thing.
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Agreed. I couldn't give a shit about this "busy ****" label that gets banded about. The science is sketchy (I believe) so the what it comes down to is consideration. It's like people intentionally/needlessly letting off stink bombs or basically just shitting all over floor knowing others have to wade through it to user the bog. It's weird behaviour.
Having said that, make the smell of burning cig a nice smell and I would give almost 100% less of a shit about the whole thing.
What, in the name of Christ, has happened to City fans? Fucking unbelievable how anyone could come on and make such a big issue about blokes having a crafty fag - you'd get slapped from one end of Maine Rd to the other if you piped up like this back in the day - and rightly so. Busy cunts or selfish cunts? There's nothing more selfish than being a busy ****. Get a fucking grip. This is matchday. At City. If you're not happy with blokes nipping out and smoking - and doing it near you and your precious airspace - go and live in a hermetically sealed shed - well away from the Etihad.
Whilst I'm on - could I please request that all scarves remain tassel-free? Whilst scarves with tassels may have been de-rigeur 1920-2002, we've surely no need for such dangerous apparel now we're firmly ensconced in the tassel-free, non-threatening, non-smoking (it's the law dontcha know?) home, we now inhabit. If anyone does feel the need to wear a tassel type scarf, could they please desist - it may "spoil the atmosphere".
BlueTangerine
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What, in the name of Christ, has happened to City fans? Fucking unbelievable how anyone could come on and make such a big issue about blokes having a crafty fag - you'd get slapped from one end of Maine Rd to the other if you piped up like this back in the day - and rightly so. Busy cunts or selfish cunts? There's nothing more selfish than being a busy ****. Get a fucking grip. This is matchday. At City. If you're not happy with blokes nipping out and smoking - and doing it near you and your precious airspace - go and live in a hermetically sealed shed - well away from the Etihad.
Whilst I'm on - could I please request that all scarves remain tassel-free? Whilst scarves with tassels may have been de-rigeur 1920-2002, we've surely no need for such dangerous apparel now we're firmly ensconced in the tassel-free, non-threatening, non-smoking (it's the law dontcha know?) home, we now inhabit. If anyone does feel the need to wear a tassel type scarf, could they please desist - it may "spoil the atmosphere".
Beautifully written bollocks :)
Consideration is the key word.. Illegal or not.. in what world is it polite to add unnecessary reek to toilets? We all have to use them. If you need to shit.. what can be done? Flush it quickly I suppose.. But to be a dick and smoke the place out.. nah.. you = inconsiderate. Also it ain't 'back in the day' now... stuff changes.
But still, it's all about the disgusting smell to me.. not really the health issue, as it's not conclusive, and even it was.. as other's have said... 2 or 3 minutes in a cloud of toxins is unlikely to shorten your life.
At least if you're gonna have a crafty cig in the bogs, get out my fucking way and don't whinge when I try to squeeze in for a piss. You know, at half time so I don't need miss the game I paid to watch to perform a mandatory human bodily function.
Unfortunately we don't live in the Maine Road era "kicked from pillar to post for being a busy ****". You could smoke on the terraces back then but you could also get away with pissing on them as well. Civilisation moves on, if you don't want to use a bog to piss in, and want to fulfil your addictions in prohibited areas, at least do it out of my way when I'm attempting not to piss myself.
Unfortunately we don't live in the Maine Road era "kicked from pillar to post for being a busy ****". You could smoke on the terraces back then but you could also get away with pissing on them as well. Civilisation moves on, if you don't want to use a bog to piss in, and want to fulfil your addictions in prohibited areas, at least do it out of my way when I'm attempting not to piss myself.
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or perhaps the more delicate fans could just fuck off.its a football match ffs!Perhaps the club could organise a working class section where fans could drink, smoke and swear without upsetting the more delicate fans.
Ducado
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Intresting that you seem to equate unhealthy habits with being "working class" Some very strange opinions in this thread about what is quite straightforward issue in that the club should do something about it, I really can't see the problemPerhaps the club could organise a working class section where fans could drink, smoke and swear without upsetting the more delicate fans.
mosssideblue
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What, in the name of Christ, has happened to City fans? Fucking unbelievable how anyone could come on and make such a big issue about blokes having a crafty fag - you'd get slapped from one end of Maine Rd to the other if you piped up like this back in the day - and rightly so. Busy cunts or selfish cunts? There's nothing more selfish than being a busy ****. Get a fucking grip. This is matchday. At City. If you're not happy with blokes nipping out and smoking - and doing it near you and your precious airspace - go and live in a hermetically sealed shed - well away from the Etihad.
Whilst I'm on - could I please request that all scarves remain tassel-free? Whilst scarves with tassels may have been de-rigeur 1920-2002, we've surely no need for such dangerous apparel now we're firmly ensconced in the tassel-free, non-threatening, non-smoking (it's the law dontcha know?) home, we now inhabit. If anyone does feel the need to wear a tassel type scarf, could they please desist - it may "spoil the atmosphere".
Absolutely pathetic response. You sound like you still rock up in ox blood doc martins.
Why should law abiding fans have to accommodate selfish poluting nobs who believe it still to be ok to break the law. If you smoke and are caught, you should be banned