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Why do you keep posting this subject then pulling it when people start making good points on the contrary, then posting it all again?!
I've said this a number of times now but there isn't an agenda. The media are there to make money, nothing else. The best way for them to make money is to appeal to the masses. So they spin their output to make people agree or disagree with them. They keep a keen eye/ear out to see what the general feelings of the nation are and play on that. So if on all the club's forums and newspaper site comments sections have a majority of people saying they hate x, love y and disagree with z; if on the radio phone-ins it seems a majority have a certain viewpoint on something; if the newspapers print stories about a certain subject and they see they sell more copies that day.. they'll keep regurgitating that viewpoint because they will be making more money from it. So over the last few years it's apparent that City are disliked by the majority, negative stories about us sell more papers and get more people phoning/texting in, so that's been a theme with the media and what does it result in? £$€£$€£$€ *kerching* money!
It's as simple as that. That's why I take most of the media with a pinch of salt. Past Martin Samuel, Gabriele Marcotti, Henry Winter, Greame Souness, Gary Neville, Lee Dixon, Gareth Southgate, Gordon Strachan, Andy Gray, Joe Royle, Kevin Keegan, Robbie Savage, seven or eight posters on Bluemoon and the MCFC.co.uk website; nothing is worth taking any notice of.
As for the officiating, well, we've had loads of decisions go our way over the last two years. Very recently we've had some terrible decisions go against us. Yesterday, had Kaboul elbowed Joleon and Parker footed Mario - and Kaboul/Parker had no punishment for either - then this forum would be going it's typically [of late] hysterical self and be banging on about all sorts of shit. To be honest I've been a bit frustrated and embarrassed by the amount of whining and moaning about it all, too many have been sore losers. I agree, recently (before tomorrow) things haven't been going our way, but where the fuck has the typical City cool-ness and 'roll with it' attitude gone? Some of you Blues have been like the whiniest Gooners and wankerish/sore-loser Rags recently! Grow a fucking oair of balls for fuck's sake!
In games we've dropped points we've missed over 70 chances. For me it doesn't matter what decisions are made, I feel I have no right to moan about anything else but our finishing. But just think about the reaction had the incidents been the other way around yesterday.. it would have been bananas on here. Both were very fucking dodgy and I wouldn't have had a bad word to say against Webb had he sent either/both off.
I've said it many times that we watch football in the 2010's yet it's still officiated like its the 1930's. But we all moan at the refs as if they see all what we see after seven replays from four different angles and in three different speeds. Refs see it once, from one angle, at full speed but we don't react like that's all they see. They need video technology, and not just on goal line shit. It is absolutely needed for 1. Goal line; 2. Penalty decisions; 3. Card/no card (nothing more - so none of this "where will it end" lark; nothing less). Until this happens we'll still get glaring inconsistencies in officiating.
As for the governing bodies. I've also said in a few of your similar themed threads, that if you look at La Liga you'll see that top clubs like Sevilla amongst others (I think there's 5 decent clubs) can't even attract a shirt sponsor, and the league itself is struggling to attract sponsors and actually sell itself to other countries because that league has so little competition at the top of the league. Even having the teo biggest and best clubs in the world isnt enough to sell that league. La Liga is suffering big time because of two clubs who want it all for themselves. The Bundesliga has been on a sharp rise for a number of years. The competition for the title is hotly contested by various clubs all the time. Try as they may, Bayern might try and buy everyone else's decent players to stay at the top but everyone is interested in the Bundesliga and investment is very high all over the place. That league is on the up and is fastly catching up to the Prem (still a way to go though).
So then why would the Premier League and the FA try and rig our league to keep United at the top winning things? If they see how La Liga is going (backwards and losing money all the time), why would they risk that with the Prem when they have a league like the Bundesliga catching up behind? You'd think they'd be welcoming City coming along to increase the competition at the top of the Prem.
There isn't an agenda!<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:15 pm --<br /><br />Why do you keep posting this subject then pulling it when people start making good points on the contrary, then posting it all again?!
I've said this a number of times now but there isn't an agenda. The media are there to make money, nothing else. The best way for them to make money is to appeal to the masses. So they spin their output to make people agree or disagree with them. They keep a keen eye/ear out to see what the general feelings of the nation are and play on that. So if on all the club's forums and newspaper site comments sections have a majority of people saying they hate x, love y and disagree with z; if on the radio phone-ins it seems a majority have a certain viewpoint on something; if the newspapers print stories about a certain subject and they see they sell more copies that day.. they'll keep regurgitating that viewpoint because they will be making more money from it. So over the last few years it's apparent that City are disliked by the majority, negative stories about us sell more papers and get more people phoning/texting in, so that's been a theme with the media and what does it result in? £$€£$€£$€ *kerching* money!
It's as simple as that. That's why I take most of the media with a pinch of salt. Past Martin Samuel, Gabriele Marcotti, Henry Winter, Greame Souness, Gary Neville, Lee Dixon, Gareth Southgate, Gordon Strachan, Andy Gray, Joe Royle, Kevin Keegan, Robbie Savage, seven or eight posters on Bluemoon and the MCFC.co.uk website; nothing is worth taking any notice of.
As for the officiating, well, we've had loads of decisions go our way over the last two years. Very recently we've had some terrible decisions go against us. Yesterday, had Kaboul elbowed Joleon and Parker footed Mario - and Kaboul/Parker had no punishment for either - then this forum would be going it's typically [of late] hysterical self and be banging on about all sorts of shit. To be honest I've been a bit frustrated and embarrassed by the amount of whining and moaning about it all, too many have been sore losers. I agree, recently (before tomorrow) things haven't been going our way, but where the fuck has the typical City cool-ness and 'roll with it' attitude gone? Some of you Blues have been like the whiniest Gooners and wankerish/sore-loser Rags recently! Grow a fucking oair of balls for fuck's sake!
In games we've dropped points we've missed over 70 chances. For me it doesn't matter what decisions are made, I feel I have no right to moan about anything else but our finishing. But just think about the reaction had the incidents been the other way around yesterday.. it would have been bananas on here. Both were very fucking dodgy and I wouldn't have had a bad word to say against Webb had he sent either/both off.
I've said it many times that we watch football in the 2010's yet it's still officiated like its the 1930's. But we all moan at the refs as if they see all what we see after seven replays from four different angles and in three different speeds. Refs see it once, from one angle, at full speed but we don't react like that's all they see. They need video technology, and not just on goal line shit. It is absolutely needed for 1. Goal line; 2. Penalty decisions; 3. Card/no card (nothing more - so none of this "where will it end" lark; nothing less). Until this happens we'll still get glaring inconsistencies in officiating.
As for the governing bodies. I've also said in a few of your similar themed threads, that if you look at La Liga you'll see that top clubs like Sevilla amongst others (I think there's 5 decent clubs) can't even attract a shirt sponsor, and the league itself is struggling to attract sponsors and actually sell itself to other countries because that league has so little competition at the top of the league. Even having the teo biggest and best clubs in the world isnt enough to sell that league. La Liga is suffering big time because of two clubs who want it all for themselves. The Bundesliga has been on a sharp rise for a number of years. The competition for the title is hotly contested by various clubs all the time. Try as they may, Bayern might try and buy everyone else's decent players to stay at the top but everyone is interested in the Bundesliga and investment is very high all over the place. That league is on the up and is fastly catching up to the Prem (still a way to go though).
So then why would the Premier League and the FA try and rig our league to keep United at the top winning things? If they see how La Liga is going (backwards and losing money all the time), why would they risk that with the Prem when they have a league like the Bundesliga catching up behind? You'd think they'd be welcoming City coming along to increase the competition at the top of the Prem.
There isn't an agenda!
I've said this a number of times now but there isn't an agenda. The media are there to make money, nothing else. The best way for them to make money is to appeal to the masses. So they spin their output to make people agree or disagree with them. They keep a keen eye/ear out to see what the general feelings of the nation are and play on that. So if on all the club's forums and newspaper site comments sections have a majority of people saying they hate x, love y and disagree with z; if on the radio phone-ins it seems a majority have a certain viewpoint on something; if the newspapers print stories about a certain subject and they see they sell more copies that day.. they'll keep regurgitating that viewpoint because they will be making more money from it. So over the last few years it's apparent that City are disliked by the majority, negative stories about us sell more papers and get more people phoning/texting in, so that's been a theme with the media and what does it result in? £$€£$€£$€ *kerching* money!
It's as simple as that. That's why I take most of the media with a pinch of salt. Past Martin Samuel, Gabriele Marcotti, Henry Winter, Greame Souness, Gary Neville, Lee Dixon, Gareth Southgate, Gordon Strachan, Andy Gray, Joe Royle, Kevin Keegan, Robbie Savage, seven or eight posters on Bluemoon and the MCFC.co.uk website; nothing is worth taking any notice of.
As for the officiating, well, we've had loads of decisions go our way over the last two years. Very recently we've had some terrible decisions go against us. Yesterday, had Kaboul elbowed Joleon and Parker footed Mario - and Kaboul/Parker had no punishment for either - then this forum would be going it's typically [of late] hysterical self and be banging on about all sorts of shit. To be honest I've been a bit frustrated and embarrassed by the amount of whining and moaning about it all, too many have been sore losers. I agree, recently (before tomorrow) things haven't been going our way, but where the fuck has the typical City cool-ness and 'roll with it' attitude gone? Some of you Blues have been like the whiniest Gooners and wankerish/sore-loser Rags recently! Grow a fucking oair of balls for fuck's sake!
In games we've dropped points we've missed over 70 chances. For me it doesn't matter what decisions are made, I feel I have no right to moan about anything else but our finishing. But just think about the reaction had the incidents been the other way around yesterday.. it would have been bananas on here. Both were very fucking dodgy and I wouldn't have had a bad word to say against Webb had he sent either/both off.
I've said it many times that we watch football in the 2010's yet it's still officiated like its the 1930's. But we all moan at the refs as if they see all what we see after seven replays from four different angles and in three different speeds. Refs see it once, from one angle, at full speed but we don't react like that's all they see. They need video technology, and not just on goal line shit. It is absolutely needed for 1. Goal line; 2. Penalty decisions; 3. Card/no card (nothing more - so none of this "where will it end" lark; nothing less). Until this happens we'll still get glaring inconsistencies in officiating.
As for the governing bodies. I've also said in a few of your similar themed threads, that if you look at La Liga you'll see that top clubs like Sevilla amongst others (I think there's 5 decent clubs) can't even attract a shirt sponsor, and the league itself is struggling to attract sponsors and actually sell itself to other countries because that league has so little competition at the top of the league. Even having the teo biggest and best clubs in the world isnt enough to sell that league. La Liga is suffering big time because of two clubs who want it all for themselves. The Bundesliga has been on a sharp rise for a number of years. The competition for the title is hotly contested by various clubs all the time. Try as they may, Bayern might try and buy everyone else's decent players to stay at the top but everyone is interested in the Bundesliga and investment is very high all over the place. That league is on the up and is fastly catching up to the Prem (still a way to go though).
So then why would the Premier League and the FA try and rig our league to keep United at the top winning things? If they see how La Liga is going (backwards and losing money all the time), why would they risk that with the Prem when they have a league like the Bundesliga catching up behind? You'd think they'd be welcoming City coming along to increase the competition at the top of the Prem.
There isn't an agenda!<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:15 pm --<br /><br />Why do you keep posting this subject then pulling it when people start making good points on the contrary, then posting it all again?!
I've said this a number of times now but there isn't an agenda. The media are there to make money, nothing else. The best way for them to make money is to appeal to the masses. So they spin their output to make people agree or disagree with them. They keep a keen eye/ear out to see what the general feelings of the nation are and play on that. So if on all the club's forums and newspaper site comments sections have a majority of people saying they hate x, love y and disagree with z; if on the radio phone-ins it seems a majority have a certain viewpoint on something; if the newspapers print stories about a certain subject and they see they sell more copies that day.. they'll keep regurgitating that viewpoint because they will be making more money from it. So over the last few years it's apparent that City are disliked by the majority, negative stories about us sell more papers and get more people phoning/texting in, so that's been a theme with the media and what does it result in? £$€£$€£$€ *kerching* money!
It's as simple as that. That's why I take most of the media with a pinch of salt. Past Martin Samuel, Gabriele Marcotti, Henry Winter, Greame Souness, Gary Neville, Lee Dixon, Gareth Southgate, Gordon Strachan, Andy Gray, Joe Royle, Kevin Keegan, Robbie Savage, seven or eight posters on Bluemoon and the MCFC.co.uk website; nothing is worth taking any notice of.
As for the officiating, well, we've had loads of decisions go our way over the last two years. Very recently we've had some terrible decisions go against us. Yesterday, had Kaboul elbowed Joleon and Parker footed Mario - and Kaboul/Parker had no punishment for either - then this forum would be going it's typically [of late] hysterical self and be banging on about all sorts of shit. To be honest I've been a bit frustrated and embarrassed by the amount of whining and moaning about it all, too many have been sore losers. I agree, recently (before tomorrow) things haven't been going our way, but where the fuck has the typical City cool-ness and 'roll with it' attitude gone? Some of you Blues have been like the whiniest Gooners and wankerish/sore-loser Rags recently! Grow a fucking oair of balls for fuck's sake!
In games we've dropped points we've missed over 70 chances. For me it doesn't matter what decisions are made, I feel I have no right to moan about anything else but our finishing. But just think about the reaction had the incidents been the other way around yesterday.. it would have been bananas on here. Both were very fucking dodgy and I wouldn't have had a bad word to say against Webb had he sent either/both off.
I've said it many times that we watch football in the 2010's yet it's still officiated like its the 1930's. But we all moan at the refs as if they see all what we see after seven replays from four different angles and in three different speeds. Refs see it once, from one angle, at full speed but we don't react like that's all they see. They need video technology, and not just on goal line shit. It is absolutely needed for 1. Goal line; 2. Penalty decisions; 3. Card/no card (nothing more - so none of this "where will it end" lark; nothing less). Until this happens we'll still get glaring inconsistencies in officiating.
As for the governing bodies. I've also said in a few of your similar themed threads, that if you look at La Liga you'll see that top clubs like Sevilla amongst others (I think there's 5 decent clubs) can't even attract a shirt sponsor, and the league itself is struggling to attract sponsors and actually sell itself to other countries because that league has so little competition at the top of the league. Even having the teo biggest and best clubs in the world isnt enough to sell that league. La Liga is suffering big time because of two clubs who want it all for themselves. The Bundesliga has been on a sharp rise for a number of years. The competition for the title is hotly contested by various clubs all the time. Try as they may, Bayern might try and buy everyone else's decent players to stay at the top but everyone is interested in the Bundesliga and investment is very high all over the place. That league is on the up and is fastly catching up to the Prem (still a way to go though).
So then why would the Premier League and the FA try and rig our league to keep United at the top winning things? If they see how La Liga is going (backwards and losing money all the time), why would they risk that with the Prem when they have a league like the Bundesliga catching up behind? You'd think they'd be welcoming City coming along to increase the competition at the top of the Prem.
There isn't an agenda!