So what’s so wrong with labour shortages driving up low wages?

hilts said:
Well we advertised in the paper and got 7 interested, only 5 showed up but not many takers.

So you are doing nothing then pmsl.
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How many posts did they advertise? I mean if it was 1 you'd hope that from 7 you'd find the right one. After 5 no shows fining that 1 out of a pick of 2 isn't so easy. Not sure what more they can do to recruit tbh
 
BigOscar said:
Yeah this is a stupid concept thought up in the mind of a simpleton who has never lived in the real world. Claiming massive staff shortages in an essential industry is good because the few workers available will be able to leverage the shortage for more money is ridiculously short sighted. They might get more money, but literally everyone else suffers, a lot.(including the lorry drivers because they too need to buy things, which will be both harder to come by and more expensive)

It's a pathetic attempt to put a positive spin on a shit show.
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They can always get their stuff off the back of a lorry.
 
bluethrunthru said:
How many posts did they advertise? I mean if it was 1 you'd hope that from 7 you'd find the right one. After 5 no shows fining that 1 out of a pick of 2 isn't so easy. Not sure what more they can do to recruit tbh
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The point was more about the question posed to them;-)
 
I live in an agricultural area of Spain where this year has seen changes.
Earlier this year the first melon crop was ploughed back into the land by some producers for economic reasons.
Recent months has seen onions suffer by simply not being harvested and left on fields with no follow on crop.

Whether transport or collection costs or maybe final sale prices are to blame I don't know but change is happening.

Certainly there are fewer Senagal people in the fields (due to covid restrictions) as they are the cheap labor of choice for Spain.

Not sure about delivery costs but literally hundreds of lorries supply Europe Including UK with usual peppers lettuce tomatoes etc. and whilst August is a traditional holiday time (heat can be dangerous to workers and water costs rise so few crops collected) plenty is being produced and distributed.
Perhaps new border controls are affecting turnaround times for lorries so maybe they driver choice is to stay within EC but much of the produce locally is contracted to UK supermarkets.
 
SilverFox2 said:
I live in an agricultural area of Spain where this year has seen changes.
Earlier this year the first melon crop was ploughed back into the land by some producers for economic reasons.
Recent months has seen onions suffer by simply not being harvested and left on fields with no follow on crop.

Whether transport or collection costs or maybe final sale prices are to blame I don't know but change is happening.

Certainly there are fewer Senagal people in the fields (due to covid restrictions) as they are the cheap labor of choice for Spain.

Not sure about delivery costs but literally hundreds of lorries supply Europe Including UK with usual peppers lettuce tomatoes etc. and whilst August is a traditional holiday time (heat can be dangerous to workers and water costs rise so few crops collected) plenty is being produced and distributed.
Perhaps new border controls are affecting turnaround times for lorries so maybe they driver choice is to stay within EC but much of the produce locally is contracted to UK supermarkets.
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wait until next month - we are not yet imposing the customs checks on out borders - when we do as of the end of September food supplies in the UK are fucked - I hope Spanish farmers can find replacement markets within the EU
 
bluethrunthru said:
wait until next month - we are not yet imposing the customs checks on out borders - when we do as of the end of September food supplies in the UK are fucked - I hope Spanish farmers can find replacement markets within the EU
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Almeria and Mercia areas have been long term suppliers to UK supermarkets.
They worry about exactly what you describe because particularly in Almeria it has very little manufacturing (due to Franco's policy when in power) relying on a decimated holiday destination and agriculture to financially survive.

Let's hope the relationship can continue.
 
bluethrunthru said:
wait until next month - we are not yet imposing the customs checks on out borders - when we do as of the end of September food supplies in the UK are fucked - I hope Spanish farmers can find replacement markets within the EU
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Odds are we'll wave everything through with minimal checks.
Meanwhile our exports will be scrutinised like any other 3rd country's.
More Brexit winning.
 
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