Son looking to choose Manchester Metropolitan University.

Go wherever be thinks he will be happy. If you're happy you tend to perform better. I work with a fair number of people who went to Oxford and Cambridge and they hated every minute of it.

Beyond a very small number of employers, it makes little difference which Uni you attended, as long as you get a 2:1 or above. Much more important is to try to get a year in industry placement as part of the course in the third year as this more often than not leads to your first career opportunity once graduating.

What most dont appreciate when looking at Uni league tables is that teaching at undergraduate level is only one element of the scoring with much more bias towards academic research quality. The problem this leads to in some "top" universities is lecturers doing teaching as a chore which stops them from doing the research which they are really interested in. The result is the teaching quality often suffers.
 
Go wherever be thinks he will be happy. If you're happy you tend to perform better. I work with a fair number of people who went to Oxford and Cambridge and they hated every minute of it.

Beyond a very small number of employers, it makes little difference which Uni you attended, as long as you get a 2:1 or above. Much more important is to try to get a year in industry placement as part of the course in the third year as this more often than not leads to your first career opportunity once graduating.

What most dont appreciate when looking at Uni league tables is that teaching at undergraduate level is only one element of the scoring with much more bias towards academic research quality. The problem this leads to in some "top" universities is lecturers doing teaching as a chore which stops them from doing the research which they are really interested in. The result is the teaching quality often suffers.
Interestingly, the course lead who took us around Staffordshire Uni last week was the first person to really explain this in depth. No punches pulled about the mix of research, lectures, and the work they did in the private sector. Mostly up until now it’s been much less up front.
 
Did my degree at MMU Crewe campus ( sponsored by my then ermployers) late 80's imagine there will have been a lot of change since then though.
 
Interestingly, the course lead who took us around Staffordshire Uni last week was the first person to really explain this in depth. No punches pulled about the mix of research, lectures, and the work they did in the private sector. Mostly up until now it’s been much less up front.
Its all about the money unfortunately, to the detriment of quality and league table positions bring more money from international students. The change from Polys to being a Unis and the unnecessary devaluation of the HND which was a good qualification in its own right is where it all fell apart.
 
Go wherever be thinks he will be happy. If you're happy you tend to perform better. I work with a fair number of people who went to Oxford and Cambridge and they hated every minute of it.

Beyond a very small number of employers, it makes little difference which Uni you attended, as long as you get a 2:1 or above. Much more important is to try to get a year in industry placement as part of the course in the third year as this more often than not leads to your first career opportunity once graduating.

What most dont appreciate when looking at Uni league tables is that teaching at undergraduate level is only one element of the scoring with much more bias towards academic research quality. The problem this leads to in some "top" universities is lecturers doing teaching as a chore which stops them from doing the research which they are really interested in. The result is the teaching quality often suffers.
So far we've worked out that the course and it's content are the most important. Followed by his own feel for the University and area (Keele obviously pretty special in it's own way). As you say we're not obsessing on rankings, red brick, Russell group or any of that, partly because a lot of older more "prestigious places" don't do his chosen course anyway. Pretty sure we've got a really good short list together based on his own input.
 

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