sound box thingys

OK with the original set up mentioned on post 20 to enable sound on Amazon you had to press the TV button from the HDMI button and now we don't.So now we have HDMI to TV and TV to sound bar via optical thus eliminating one of the HDMI cables.

But here is the crux and what do you all think ? By utilizing this format would we get substandard sound on the sky audio than if we used both HDMI cables "and" the optical cable.Not bothered about the mither swapping on the remote from HDMI to TV if the output is enhanced.I was under the impression HDMI was better than optical cables for sound that emanated from high-resolution audio formats like Bluerays or ultra HD programs.
 
Two Gun Bob said:
OK with the original set up mentioned on post 20 to enable sound on Amazon you had to press the TV button from the HDMI button and now we don't.So now we have HDMI to TV and TV to sound bar via optical thus eliminating one of the HDMI cables.

But here is the crux and what do you all think ? By utilizing this format would we get substandard sound on the sky audio than if we used both HDMI cables "and" the optical cable.Not bothered about the mither swapping on the remote from HDMI to TV if the output is enhanced.I was under the impression HDMI was better than optical cables for sound that emanated from high-resolution audio formats like Bluerays or ultra HD programs.
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The audio from Amazon, Netflix or Sky will be 5.1 digital surround sound and as such the optical is fine.
You are correct for hi def audio you'll need hdmi
 
Metalartin said:
Has anyone ever tried any of the those sound projector soundbars? I find it odd that they haven't become mainstream yet as they've been around a while.

https://www.whathifi.com/promoted/yamaha-sound-projector-soundbar

I've not yet heard one in person but the technology seems logically the way forward.
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I was reading up on one of those last night.
We're moving house and I'm thinking about getting rid of all my speakers, amp, pre amp, sub etc for something a lot neater, and spent some time researching this particular one.
Need to find a place where I can have a demo.
 
HellYeah said:
The audio from Amazon, Netflix or Sky will be 5.1 digital surround sound and as such the optical is fine.
You are correct for hi def audio you'll need hdmi
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OK HellYeah and thanks for confirming mate so doing it the other way by going sky box to TV and then optical from TV to box would negate the switching and give audio sound on both through the optical channel allowing 5.1 which is a perfectly acceptable output.But in order to receive high def audio we would need to channel the sound through the HDMI cabling.So what we have just done is compromised and gone with both HDMI leads and the optical via sky to soundbar and TV to sound bar with HDMI and also the optical from TV to soundbar.Yes we have to change manually from HDMI to TV to watch Amazon through the optical but this allows us to watch Sky through the HDMI channel offering high def audio when available.I get all that really I do but am still perplexed as to why Amazon or Netflix et all will only work through optical ? My head is going to blow.

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squirtyflower said:
I was reading up on one of those last night.
We're moving house and I'm thinking about getting rid of all my speakers, amp, pre amp, sub etc for something a lot neater, and spent some time researching this particular one.
Need to find a place where I can have a demo.
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Update the thread if you end up getting one. ;)
 
Two Gun Bob said:
OK HellYeah and thanks for confirming mate so doing it the other way by going sky box to TV and then optical from TV to box would negate the switching and give audio sound on both through the optical channel allowing 5.1 which is a perfectly acceptable output.But in order to receive high def audio we would need to channel the sound through the HDMI cabling.So what we have just done is compromised and gone with both HDMI leads and the optical via sky to soundbar and TV to sound bar with HDMI and also the optical from TV to soundbar.Yes we have to change manually from HDMI to TV to watch Amazon through the optical but this allows us to watch Sky through the HDMI channel offering high def audio when available.I get all that really I do but am still perplexed as to why Amazon or Netflix et all will only work through optical ?
My head is going to blow.

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Are you using Sky Q or Sky HD, as I think sky hd only uses Dolby Digital 5.1

You have to remember that hdmi is one way (unless you use arc).
With Sky to sound bar to TV via 2 x HDMI, then you use Prime or netflix on your TV the audio will not go back down the HDMI to the sound bar, unless you can get arc to work.
This is not a prime or netflix issue, its a hdmi/tv/soundbar issue

I think you've complicated your set up when you don't need to. Just go with sky to TV with hdmi then optical to soundbar
 
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HellYeah said:
I don't think Sky use hi def audio as far as I know. You'll only get that via blu ray

You have to remember that hdmi is one way (unless you use arc).
With Sky to sound bar to TV via 2 x HDMI, then you use Prime or netflix on your TV the audio will not go back down the HDMI to the sound bar, unless you can get arc to work.
This is not a prime or netflix issue, its a hdmi/tv/soundbar issue
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Thanks mate for your help it's appreciated.I was thinking of the ultra high definition outputs from Sky utilizing the sky Q2 on the ultra hd channels.
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Thanks mate for your help it's appreciated.I was thinking of the ultra high definition outputs from Sky utilizing the sky Q2 on the ultra hd channels.
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Just edited previous message. I know Sky Q does transmit Dolby Atmos, is your soundbar atmos compatible
 
Two Gun Bob said:
OK with the original set up mentioned on post 20 to enable sound on Amazon you had to press the TV button from the HDMI button and now we don't.So now we have HDMI to TV and TV to sound bar via optical thus eliminating one of the HDMI cables.

But here is the crux and what do you all think ? By utilizing this format would we get substandard sound on the sky audio than if we used both HDMI cables "and" the optical cable.Not bothered about the mither swapping on the remote from HDMI to TV if the output is enhanced.I was under the impression HDMI was better than optical cables for sound that emanated from high-resolution audio formats like Bluerays or ultra HD programs.
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OK .... So HDMI is 'slightly' better than optical cable particularly for Blu ray etc.. however its not the cable that really matters here its what you are connecting them to. You would really need high end speakers (and I mean high end ) to discern the difference.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
OK .... So HDMI is 'slightly' better than optical cable particularly for Blu ray etc.. however its not the cable that really matters here its what you are connecting them to. You would really need high end speakers (and I mean high end ) to discern the difference.
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Which is what we don't have.The Yamaha 207 is lower to middle range but still a vast improvement over our TV's Harmon Kardan speaker.The E6 reviewers said the Kardan would be up to the job and I quote."There’s a beautifully open quality to the mid-range that lets the sound ebb and swell to accommodate changes in a soundtrack’s mood. It handles male and female voices alike with real conviction. The mid-range is so smoothly integrated with the soundbar’s surprisingly potent bass and sweet treble that you never hear the join.In short, the OLED65E6 is at least up there with the Panasonic 58DX802 in the fight for best-sounding TV of the year" But the reality is you cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear even if that sounds overtly harsh.The quality we now have is a different experience altogether and I would highly recommend anyone to purchase a bar to replace their built in one.Thanks everyone for the advice on different set ups to get the Amazon sound up and running and agree maybe the optical cable will suffice when speaker quality is taken into consideration.
 
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I use a 10 year old Yamaha AV57 AV amp. 5.1 Dts, digital audio (PCM) from the cable box, plus inputs from the DVD player and XBox. 5 mini satellite speakers and a powered sub.

Clunky by modern standards, but still sounds bloody good.
 
johnmc said:
Fair enough. Just never felt the need for one.

Most people have them hooked up to their tv tho. Maybe it’s one of those things that once you have one you don’t look back.
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Bluetooth and music. I'm just a 24 year old savage who likes to shake the house when i beat my dick. So the base on the soundbar, for me, is worth all the money.
 
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