mancityscot
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Phillips just reminds me exactly of Rodwell.
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Southampton (A) - Carabao Cup | Post Match Thread
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ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN
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Played more like Buster PhillipsPhillips just reminds me exactly of Rodwell.
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Gundogan: “The desire and hunger is not as in recent years”
That’s a pretty big admission. This is where Fernandinho would gather the squad together and crack some skulls. Who’s doing that this time? Gundo is the fucking club captain and he’s seemingly just hoping blindly that we’ll rediscover it. Yeah, we’re fucked.
I'm detecting this from some of Pep's comments as well.
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I was at the game last night. Southampton is a mere 2 hours from us, compared to our 3-4 hour pilgrimage to the Etihad most weeks.
Firstly, any Munich nonsense needs to be nipped in the bud. Was some clown waving a United top in their end and it got a pretty grim response. May have only been a tiny minority but it was clearly audible.
As for the match, we got done by Southampton changing to 4-2-3-1 and their very direct attacking/play. Yet again the opposition goalkeeper spent longer than usual working on the same kick, in fact he was landing it on our subs during the warm up. It was just a straight drive deep into our half, landing it on Gomez most of the time. Doubt he's ever encountered that sort of physicality either.
They exploited our total lack of fluency given the number of changes with a very aggressive press early on. We just never kept the ball well enough to expose the large spaces outside their full backs, either by switching the ball or even just playing behind them. Both goals are awful. However, they'll need to be wary that if they play like that again, more 'pragmatic' PL sides will just clip the ball into the channel.
Definitely one to forget, but given the fixture congestion and the quality of upcoming opponents, it's not the end of the world. That was our third game in 6 days, with three incredibly important league games coming up.
Cancelo's form has gone off a cliff, regardless of position. Perhaps he needs a break from starting games.
Just on the Gundogan comments, we were a little like this in 19/20 with David Silva as club captain. Fernandinho had to call the infamous meeting after WBA in 20/21. Not sure it's anywhere near this sort of crisis level, but we are looking to play in a different way this season and clearly don't have our best set up nailed down yet.
Some really good points. It must have been a tough watch in the stands.I was at the game last night. Southampton is a mere 2 hours from us, compared to our 3-4 hour pilgrimage to the Etihad most weeks.
Firstly, any Munich nonsense needs to be nipped in the bud. Was some clown waving a United top in their end and it got a pretty grim response. May have only been a tiny minority but it was clearly audible.
As for the match, we got done by Southampton changing to 4-2-3-1 and their very direct attacking/play. Yet again the opposition goalkeeper spent longer than usual working on the same kick, in fact he was landing it on our subs during the warm up. It was just a straight drive deep into our half, landing it on Gomez most of the time. Doubt he's ever encountered that sort of physicality either.
They exploited our total lack of fluency given the number of changes with a very aggressive press early on. We just never kept the ball well enough to expose the large spaces outside their full backs, either by switching the ball or even just playing behind them. Both goals are awful. However, they'll need to be wary that if they play like that again, more 'pragmatic' PL sides will just clip the ball into the channel.
Definitely one to forget, but given the fixture congestion and the quality of upcoming opponents, it's not the end of the world. That was our third game in 6 days, with three incredibly important league games coming up.
Cancelo's form has gone off a cliff, regardless of position. Perhaps he needs a break from starting games.
Just on the Gundogan comments, we were a little like this in 19/20 with David Silva as club captain. Fernandinho had to call the infamous meeting after WBA in 20/21. Not sure it's anywhere near this sort of crisis level, but we are looking to play in a different way this season and clearly don't have our best set up nailed down yet.
In terms of Gundogan’s post match comments as well as Pep’s recent mentions of body language there is clearly something slightly off. I recall the Fernandinho clear the air talks well and I can only hope that as I type this something similar is happening with the current group. It feels like everyone needs to voice what they think is amiss and agree how to put it right.
As fans we can only speculate about post World Cup fatigue, formations, player form and what we see but I am sure there is much more to it than that. Fingers crossed there is a second coming of the Fernandinho speech and a reaction on Saturday. We have had a number of wobbles under Pep and he has always seen us right. I see no difference this time.
losing is never fun, but it happens and we need to live with that. Obviously the manner with which we lost is the key fallout from this game. Not good to see so many players out of form.
However, the reaction from many is bordering on hysterical. Most players need to be sold and Pep needs to fuck off, is the summary!! eh?!
However, the reaction from many is bordering on hysterical. Most players need to be sold and Pep needs to fuck off, is the summary!! eh?!
vicblueman
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Phillips just reminds me exactly of Rodwell.
Only one start for us, but he looked out of his depth at the heart of the city midfield .If its true that West ham would like to have him at their club in the summer i would sell him to them in a heartbeat .
Yep winning any cup requires a big dollop of luck but your chances are increased if players are fresh and fit.. and being out of everything else helps to make that happenGreat in theory but in cups you're always one cock-up, one bit of skill or one VAR or ref problem from going out. Or you reach the final and come up against a team you've just finished 19 points ahead of but don't produce anything of note.
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I know Pep said that any team he put out last night would have had the same result, i'm not sure why he's talking bollocks so much this season but it's pretty clear that is not the case. Walker had a great game the other night at right back, so what does Pep do? Play him at CB where he was completely shit against Chelsea. Cancelo looked decent when he came on at left back the other night, so what does Pep do? Play him at right back/right wing where he was absolutely gash against Chelsea. Phillips hasn't started a game for us yet, he clearly doesn't understand the 6 in how City play it, so it would have been prudent for him to be sitting with someone who does, even if it was Gundo? Sergio Gomez isn't a left back that can play at this level, Zinchenko took a couple of seasons to evolve his play but it always looked like he had the basics. I never really feel confident going forwards or backwards with this kid, he probably hit his level at Anderlecht. I know it's hard to blame 4 positions on a loss, but i think it completely affected the way we play and ran through the rest of the team like a disease. Once he did make the adjustment it was just too late.
There was no reason to play Cancelo at right back and Walker at CB, i know he wanted to rest Ake, Stones and Akanji, but if one of them had started and we wrapped up the game, they could have been rested.
An absolute shit-show of a performance, originating from the bench and feeding onto the pitch.
There was no reason to play Cancelo at right back and Walker at CB, i know he wanted to rest Ake, Stones and Akanji, but if one of them had started and we wrapped up the game, they could have been rested.
An absolute shit-show of a performance, originating from the bench and feeding onto the pitch.
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We didnt throw that game, we were just dogshit on the night
wolviedinho
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Gundogan: “The desire and hunger is not as in recent years”
That’s a pretty big admission. This is where Fernandinho would gather the squad together and crack some skulls. Who’s doing that this time? Gundo is the fucking club captain and he’s seemingly just hoping blindly that we’ll rediscover it. Yeah, we’re fucked.
Finally Gundo is being honest. Apart from fans who stick their heads in the sand most of us can see we are not at it this season. No hunger or desire to run the hard yards and creating fuck all. Shame as 3 in a row would have been a fantastic achievement.
Can see a few leaving as Pep does not do off seasons. So forget the tactics and formation as a group they have mentally checked out.