Southampton post match thread

[East Level 2]

How many times did we concede 4 when Mancini was in charge?

The BBC claimed it was the first time we've conceded 4 goals three times in the league since our 2000-2001 relegation season. I've not checked but it sounds feasible. Add to that a gap of around six months between back to back PL wins, ten PL defeats with two games remaining (our worst since 2008-2009) and more home PL defeats than in the previous four seasons combined and you'll understand why some aren't so enamoured; charming or not. And then there's our inability to beat anybody in the top six. The CL performances have papered over many cracks.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I'm no Pellegrini fan. I don't care about his reputation. We have an absolutely massive game on Wednesday night and we have almost a full team of well rested players who have dodged the possibility of picking up costly injuries. This maximises our chances of getting a result. I'm in a very small minority but I agree with that decision.

I have no problem with him resting some players at least for half a game. (Would the most important one not be Fernandinho incidentally, the bloke who does the most running ?)

But to put out that 11, in that formation, playing with exactly the same kind of attitude as if it was the 1st 11 on the first game of the season with everyone 100% fit, rather than at least try to organise that group of players into a unit, to get a result, that's my problem with this bloke.

Would Ranieri or Rafa or even LVG just send out 11 players to play exactly the same way even though they are all completely different strengths & weaknesses ? Some by his own admission not really match fit ?

FFS WHY ? Why couldn't we be a solid 451 for example, play on the break ? We have to try & play like a 'big team'. Bollocks.

The players get shit for not trying, but did the manager really send those players out with a message to dig in & get a result & a stirring speech about playing for the supporters or their pride or their legacy at the club ? Does anyone anywhere believe that he did ANYTHING different ?

That's all he does. The same thing every week. Yet recently, in the Champs Lg, ee have been more careful & solid & tried to counter attack. So he's noticed that (at long long last).

But a 2nd 11 with half not match fit is sent out wide open & expect to come away with 3 points ?

He's a wanker.

 

[Steve68]

I have no problem with him resting some players at least for half a game. (Would the most important one not be Fernandinho incidentally, the bloke who does the most running ?)

But to put out that 11, in that formation, playing with exactly the same kind of attitude as if it was the 1st 11 on the first game of the season with everyone 100% fit, rather than at least try to organise that group of players into a unit, to get a result, that's my problem with this bloke.

Would Ranieri or Rafa or even LVG just send out 11 players to play exactly the same way even though they are all completely different strengths & weaknesses ? Some by his own admission not really match fit ?

FFS WHY ? Why couldn't we be a solid 451 for example, play on the break ? We have to try & play like a 'big team'.

The players get shit for not trying, but did the manager really send those players out with a message to dig in & get a result & a stirring speech about playing for the supporters or their pride or their legacy at the club ? Does anyone anywhere believe that he did ANYTHING different ?

That's all he does. The same thing every week. Yet recently, in the Champs Lg, ee have been more careful & solid & tried to counter attack. So he's noticed that (at long long last).

But a 2nd 11 with half not match fit is sent out wide open & expect to come away with 3 points ?

He's a wanker.

Spot on.

 

[bluemoon98]

 

[kippax4ever]

Beside the awful performance, from the 80min we were playing like we were 4-2 up,no urgency,but just kept passing fking sidewards/backwards & more fking sideward passes..

 

[Sir peace frog]

I have no problem with him resting some players at least for half a game. (Would the most important one not be Fernandinho incidentally, the bloke who does the most running ?)

But to put out that 11, in that formation, playing with exactly the same kind of attitude as if it was the 1st 11 on the first game of the season with everyone 100% fit, rather than at least try to organise that group of players into a unit, to get a result, that's my problem with this bloke.

Would Ranieri or Rafa or even LVG just send out 11 players to play exactly the same way even though they are all completely different strengths & weaknesses ? Some by his own admission not really match fit ?

FFS WHY ? Why couldn't we be a solid 451 for example, play on the break ? We have to try & play like a 'big team'. Bollocks.

The players get shit for not trying, but did the manager really send those players out with a message to dig in & get a result & a stirring speech about playing for the supporters or their pride or their legacy at the club ? Does anyone anywhere believe that he did ANYTHING different ?

That's all he does. The same thing every week. Yet recently, in the Champs Lg, ee have been more careful & solid & tried to counter attack. So he's noticed that (at long long last).

But a 2nd 11 with half not match fit is sent out wide open & expect to come away with 3 points ?

He's a wanker.

I said something similar but not as well put every match should matter every game is important I know he has to rst certain players but ffs set up to at least give us a chance

 

[hgblue]

I have no problem with him resting some players at least for half a game. (Would the most important one not be Fernandinho incidentally, the bloke who does the most running ?)

But to put out that 11, in that formation, playing with exactly the same kind of attitude as if it was the 1st 11 on the first game of the season with everyone 100% fit, rather than at least try to organise that group of players into a unit, to get a result, that's my problem with this bloke.

Would Ranieri or Rafa or even LVG just send out 11 players to play exactly the same way even though they are all completely different strengths & weaknesses ? Some by his own admission not really match fit ?

FFS WHY ? Why couldn't we be a solid 451 for example, play on the break ? We have to try & play like a 'big team'. Bollocks.

The players get shit for not trying, but did the manager really send those players out with a message to dig in & get a result & a stirring speech about playing for the supporters or their pride or their legacy at the club ? Does anyone anywhere believe that he did ANYTHING different ?

That's all he does. The same thing every week. Yet recently, in the Champs Lg, ee have been more careful & solid & tried to counter attack. So he's noticed that (at long long last).

But a 2nd 11 with half not match fit is sent out wide open & expect to come away with 3 points ?

He's a wanker.

Look, my opinion on Pellegrini is very close to yours, but I reckon that yesterday he decided to take a gamble on losing a game in order to maximise our chances of winning a much more important game. United drawing means the loss hasn't hurt us too much and I've watched other managers like Ferguson do exactly the same thing over the years and get hailed as geniuses. As fans, we tend to focus on the little picture, a shit performance and poor result, whereas the professionals at the club are focused on the big picture. If we get past Madrid and you're buying your ticket for the Champs League final, say it again the Champs League final, will you still be thinking back to Southampton away and fuming about the team selection? I think not. Most of those railing against the manager will be celebrating beating Madrid and hardly any will be re-visiting this thread and accepting that resting players had contributed to the result.

 

[stonerblue]

Kelechi's performance was a huge bright spark & he almost singlehandedly kept us in it, but if we'd had one sent off, I recon a Boro/Sven situation would have been on the cards with 10 men. It had that kind of feel about it.

I said a while back that the kid would have his day this season, exploding into the wider publics consciousness with a match winning performance that can't be ignored. Maybe Wednesday could be that day.

 

[Stretford Born Blue]

It's not just "his box" though is it. Our owners want European Success.

 

[stonerblue]

I have avoided posting message until now as I have like all other city fans have been fuming after this one.
Yes we can all have a bad day but effort makes up for even when things go against us - for the few who did try yesterday this is in no way targeted at you but for the others whose inept, lack of interest, effortless and totally unprofessional ethic "you are a disgrace and don't deserve to be part of our club"

Manuel got it very wrong yesterday and I just don't know what motivational skills were used but I sure wouldn't need to turn up at my workplace with the same attitude of most wearing the shirt yesterday - "I would be sacked"

Everything has been said on this forum site about another shameful performance which has been in our pedigree for far too long.

Kolorov should not be allowed our dressing room ever again as has been his stinking attitude for quite a while now.

I do not want to say anything else or I will get in trouble.

To those who wear the shirt with PRIDE, (THANKS) from all hard working supporters who know when we have been let down.

give over you drama queen.