Southport attacker pleads guilty to murdering three girls | Sentenced to 52 years in prison

[BerkshireBlue]

1 in the last 4 years, so barely carry them out anymore.

that's because they have law and order under control like a civilised society. Low crime rate implies less death penalties and vice versa. It works

 

[hilts]

1 in the last 4 years, so barely carry them out anymore.

You said don't though, for crying out loud don't change it to as a rule though, you will be here all day mate:-)

 

[BlueHammer85]

that's because they have law and order under control like a civilised society. Low crime rate implies less death penalties and vice versa. It works

Yes, Japan are a exception in this case but i don't think so solely because of the death penalty - If it was a proven deterrent then all countries would have it - Japan has a lot right but many of their population suffer loneliness, overworked, have a low birth rate and a declining population and enormous public debts.

 

[west didsblue]

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[BerkshireBlue]

Yes, Japan are a exception in this case but i don't think so solely because of the death penalty - If it was a proven deterrent then all countries would have it - Japan has a lot right but many of their population suffer loneliness, overworked, have a low birth rate and a declining population and enormous public debts.

so your statement about the death penalty in a civilised society is wrong then.

 

[BlueHammer85]

so your statement about the death penalty in a civilised society is wrong then.

Yes, well done finding 1 civilized country out of 195 that has the death penalty.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Yes, well done finding 1 civilized country out of 195 that has the death penalty.

China, far more civilised than the UK

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Yes, well done finding 1 civilized country out of 195 that has the death penalty.

It only needs one to debunk your appraisal.
What it shows is that you can still be a civilised society and utilise the death penalty. You can't dispute that.
99% of the time I am against the death penalty. In cases such as these, it has to be an option.
My parents live in Southport. My dads fishing tackle shop is literally next door to where the murders happened. You cannot even begin to comprehend the devastation this has brought to that community. It has devastated and ended lives.
There is absolutely no reason for this piece of shit to be drawing air. The **** was butchering young girls and you thi k he should live because it proves we are a civilised society.
How do you think those girls families are thinking when they get up and read he has been allowed to hurt more people, just because we are a civilised society?
In cases such as this, where it is so evil, wicked and cruel, the death penalty should be an option. Let the parents decide whether he lives or dies.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Civilised countries don’t have the death penalty.

No they feed murdering cunts like that fucker nice to be civilised just like he is.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

China, far more civilised than the UK

Assuming you overlook a bit of genocide in the regions.

 

[i kne albert davy]

1 in the last 4 years, so barely carry them out anymore.

Ever been to Singapore think you’ll find it far more civilised than most of the UK

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Assuming you overlook a bit of genocide in the regions.

last time i looked the UK has done far more genocide and war crimes than China. try harder

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

It only needs one to debunk your appraisal.
What it shows is that you can still be a civilised society and utilise the death penalty. You can't dispute that.
99% of the time I am against the death penalty. In cases such as these, it has to be an option.
My parents live in Southport. My dads fishing tackle shop is literally next door to where the murders happened. You cannot even begin to comprehend the devastation this has brought to that community. It has devastated and ended lives.
There is absolutely no reason for this piece of shit to be drawing air. The **** was butchering young girls and you thi k he should live because it proves we are a civilised society.
How do you think those girls families are thinking when they get up and read he has been allowed to hurt more people, just because we are a civilised society?
In cases such as this, where it is so evil, wicked and cruel, the death penalty should be an option. Let the parents decide whether he lives or dies.

I am now of a similar view. I’ve always been against it, because of our adversarial system of law. There seems to rarely be an attempt to get to the truth, but to secure a conviction (or get someone off). I also felt that, unless your police are 100% honest (as if they could be), then there’s always the risk of them ‘being at it’. Not only that, but we then ask 12 ordinary citizens to sit in judgment, whilst no doubt looking at horrific pictures of mutilated children, and then we ask to be dispassionate when considering the evidence.
However, when a minimum sentence of 52 years is passed, you do have to wonder how that is more ‘civilised’ than execution? The boy will never be rehabilitated and, if he’s ever released, he’ll be a minimum age of 60 and he will be so institutionalised as to be impossible to manage.
He’s already attacked prison officers twice, once with ‘home made’ knives and once with boiling water (why does he need boiling water, ffs) and so, on balance, he should be removed from the gene pool.

 

[manclad]

I am now of a similar view. I’ve always been against it, because of our adversarial system of law. There seems to rarely be an attempt to get to the truth, but to secure a conviction (or get someone off). I also felt that, unless your police are 100% honest (as if they could be), then there’s always the risk of them ‘being at it’. Not only that, but we then ask 12 ordinary citizens to sit in judgment, whilst no doubt looking at horrific pictures of mutilated children, and then we ask to be dispassionate when considering the evidence.
However, when a minimum sentence of 52 years is passed, you do have to wonder how that is more ‘civilised’ than execution? The boy will never be rehabilitated and, if he’s ever released, he’ll be a minimum age of 60 and he will be so institutionalised as to be impossible to manage.
He’s already attacked prison officers twice, once with ‘home made’ knives and once with boiling water (why does he need boiling water, ffs) and so, on balance, he should be removed from the gene pool.

He won't be considered for release until he is 70.
(18 + 52 = 70 )

 

[west didsblue]

last time i looked the UK has done far more genocide and war crimes than China. try harder

You should probably read up on the Cultural Revolution and the treatment of the Uyghurs and Tibetans.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Ever been to Singapore think you’ll find it far more civilised than most of the UK

usually people think they live in huts in unhygienic conditions where as it's actual a huge developed metropolis far better than the UK. This civilised and not civilised claptrap is a load of nonsense with a lot of racist and political naive undertones. Whites vs Asians, capitalism vs communism, rich vs poor. All nations are civilised. Each country has it's own laws and crime problems which should be respected rather ridiculed and compared to. If something works in one country it is not for us to judge them on it.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Japan. Which far more civilised than the UK

And Russia doesn’t.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

You should probably read up on the Cultural Revolution and the treatment of the Uyghurs and Tibetans.

And you should read up on the Opium War

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

He won't be considered for release until he is 70.
(18 + 52 = 70 )

Indeed he won’t.
Supports the case even more…..

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

And Russia doesn’t.

Except for an unofficial one for opposers of Putin, of course..