Sporting CP (A) | CL | Post Match Thread

madloaf said:
Let's have a sensible discussion without some people calling people "Entitled" or "Fanny Wipes" or "Happy Clappers".

We played some of our best football for 35 minutes. Didn't put chances away. But, we give away the same goal every single game and it has nothing to do with individuals and everything to do with the style of football we play - which is not like pep's first season at all, where everyone was learning something new.

We push everyone into the last 3rd of the pitch and becuase they can pack the box with 7-8 players - they play the odds - leave 2 up, generally quick and hope we give the ball away. Even though we played good football, they still had the 2 best chances in the first half, and scored one of them. Its fucking suicidal football. Their 2nd goal was lovely, you can't argue with that, but that first goal was completely unnecessary if we play a different way.

We're more control based, and i actually think our players (who are fit) are not suited to this. Haaland thrives on through balls that never get played. Savinho (who was absolutely horrendous in that 2nd half - abominable selfish terrible) clearly likes to play fast. Nunes wants to play quick. Rico wants to play quick. Foden plays how he's told, so would play quick. And yet we play slow.

I don't get it, i don't get it at all.
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Spot on
 
Honestly, this is what happens when your two best players are injured. The rest just don’t have the creativity. Sure, someone like Berna works hard, but there’s not a hint of real creativity in him. Gundi looks worn out, and as for Foden, I think he’s a bit overrated. He’s a good player, but nowhere near KDB's level. He can't carry the team alone or dictate the play like peak Silva or KDB. He needs someone beside him who brings that main creative spark, like KDB does. That’s why I’m saying the summer transfer window will be critical, if we miss, we’ll drop off, no doubt about it. We need a true creative passer, and there aren't many around. We have to go all out for Wirtz; otherwise, we’re headed for a decline.
 
I'm Blue said:
Without his goals we’d be in even bigger trouble.
Who’s getting the goals?
Jack?
Savinho?
Doku?
Kev?
Phil?
Bernardo?
If it wasn’t for Gvardiol and Stones we’d be even more fucked.
The rest of the team needs to step up, it’s not all on Haaland.
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He contributed zero tonight. Looked out of his depth against average defenders and never looked to get involved in the second half.
 
Barcon said:
How the fuck was that 2nd one a penalty and Bernie’s wasn’t?
Anyway suck my fucking dick. You’re a known rag ****.
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Didnt comment anything about bernies penalty and said sporting ones were penaltys, dont really give a f..k what you think or say...what team is a rag anyway ? Dont watch any football besides city anyway ,so back off
 
You've got to take your fucking chances at this level, that's the difference in this game. And for all the goals Haaland scores I still don't think he's a lethal finisher. Seems to score lots, in clutches, then a drought. Losing Rodri was/is an absolute hammer blow to the team, but we should still have enough quality once the injuries clear up. Got to be clinical, so maybe a 2nd striker is on the cards for the Jan transfer window.

Up the blues.
 
Absolutely abysmal. From a game we were coasting at 1-0 up to falling apart all over the place shows a lack of courage, heart and guts and that is worrying. While some injured players coming back might improve us I'm not so sure they'll improve us enough to challenge for any honours this season. Pep doesn't get a pass here either. Look, there is no doubt he's a fantastic coach but fuck me he has to have a plan B! We just cannot play this system without Rodri or anybody who can do even half the job he did.

He's getting paid the mega bucks to come up with a solution but so far he's just continuing to play the same way. We got away with it at first ....just, but fuck me we were playing Wolves, Fulham, Southampton and Brentford. Against a better team, Bournemouth away, we were lucky not to be on the end of a scoreline like tonight.

The next two games, Brighton and Spurs. Does anyone fancy us getting anything from these games except two more drubbings? Maybe I'm overreacting as it's been a shit week but I'm not anticipating much from this season.
 
I actually think this will galvanise Pep and khaldoon.

Losing hurts and pep won’t be taking it lightly going forward. He has stayed too loyal at times.

Honest discussions needed.

Can we all stop throwing players and manager under the bus?This is football, we take the punches and get back up.
 
BlueMonkey79 said:
Another game where we played well for 35 minutes then fell apart like a cheap suit.

As soon as we get put under any sustained pressure we collapse spectacularly.

We lack pace at the back. Ake and Akanji looked like they were running with lead lined boots on. Pusey was hung out to dry by the 2 of them.

Rico is very limited as a footballer. Love his energy but he is not the answer in defence or midfield.

Kovacic is either a solid 9 out of 10 or barely deserves a 5 rating, which is more often than a 9.

Bernardo looks absolutely lost at the minute, and Gundogan has been awful since his return.

We have got zero end product on the wings. Doku and Sav really need to start creating more and actually trying to find men with their crosses.

Nunes has been a highlight the last half dozen games but shows he's capable of throwing in shitshows as well.

And then you have Erl up top missing chance after chance and blazing penalties over the bar.

Add that to the mix of all the injuries and you can see why winning any silverware this season is going to be very very hard.

The squad has been neglected over the last few years. As a club the execs have rested on its laurels.

Football evolves and we as a club need to evolve to keep our grip on the trophies we have fought so hard to win!!!

I fear it's going to be long hard season for us. I just hope that someone like Villa or even Chelsea can surmount a challenge to keep those red shirted bastards off our trophy.!!!
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….yeah….but apart from that :-)
 
BlueMonkey79 said:
Another game where we played well for 35 minutes then fell apart like a cheap suit.

As soon as we get put under any sustained pressure we collapse spectacularly.

We lack pace at the back. Ake and Akanji looked like they were running with lead lined boots on. Pusey was hung out to dry by the 2 of them.

Rico is very limited as a footballer. Love his energy but he is not the answer in defence or midfield.

Kovacic is either a solid 9 out of 10 or barely deserves a 5 rating, which is more often than a 9.

Bernardo looks absolutely lost at the minute, and Gundogan has been awful since his return.

We have got zero end product on the wings. Doku and Sav really need to start creating more and actually trying to find men with their crosses.

Nunes has been a highlight the last half dozen games but shows he's capable of throwing in shitshows as well.

And then you have Erl up top missing chance after chance and blazing penalties over the bar.

Add that to the mix of all the injuries and you can see why winning any silverware this season is going to be very very hard.

The squad has been neglected over the last few years. As a club the execs have rested on its laurels.

Football evolves and we as a club need to evolve to keep our grip on the trophies we have fought so hard to win!!!

I fear it's going to be long hard season for us. I just hope that someone like Villa or even Chelsea can surmount a challenge to keep those red shirted bastards off our trophy.!!!
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Ake didn't play!
 
SamTheGuru said:
Perspective: We lose our first league game in 2024. We lost a league cup game that 99% of us would have written off given the injury situation, we lose a Champions League game in a new format that noone is used to that under the normal group stages we wouldn't have cared too much about.
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Yep, 3 straight defeats is definitely grounds for optimism.
 
nellyonthewing said:
Lets face facts this is not down purely to Rodri being out as some claim. As has been demonstrated since late last season teams with pace just run by us. Walker used to bail us out but he's done.
Pep should have recognised the decline in our squad and the ability to hold the ball, defend and score goals.
We hold the ball when our opponents don't want it so our possession is meaningless. We need multiple chances to convert one goal. As soon as we lose possession we get screwed for pace and strength and concede.
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You can get away with a hell of lot (skill wise) at top level now IF you have immense power and pace - you see this in the prem every week - pace is the winner - your better off trying to be very direct get the oppo defence turning and have half your team charging forward at pace - one square pass = goal...we concede soo many like that - sadly without the ability of Rodri to cajole players into position and also cajole them into trying we look incredibly easy to play against - Sporting ...scored 4!!! and they are average
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Why cant people moan and criticise ? That was fuckin awful and every player and pep needs digging out.

Doesnt make you a ‘massive blue’ to say the shit you just said
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It makes some people massively entitled and raggish to read some of the unnecessary tripe on here tonight.
 
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