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JimB said:
I'm not too bothered to be honest. Pretty sure it would have been live on TV if it hadn't been so long delayed and if there had been more notice of the fixture change. Can understand why Sky have chosen to focus on the title race at this stage of the season, even if watching City thrash Cardiff might not be such an attractive spectacle for the neutral.
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That's fair enough, but there will be plenty of Spurs fans who see it differently to you; that was the point I was making (such as it was).
I can't say I'd be bothered if it was the other way around, but there would be plenty who would.
That said, it was just a casual reference to something some may have found amusing, not really worth this much typing... Oh well, too late!
 
keith's curle said:
That's fair enough, but there will be plenty of Spurs fans who see it differently to you; that was the point I was making (such as it was).
I can't say I'd be bothered if it was the other way around, but there would be plenty who would.
That said, it was just a casual reference to something some may have found amusing, not really worth this much typing... Oh well, too late!
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Yes, I’ve seen plenty of Spurs fans who are pissed off.........”they’d never have switched to another game if Man Utd or Liverpool were opening a new stadium”.....you know the kind of posts!
 
JimB said:
Yes, I’ve seen plenty of Spurs fans who are pissed off.........”they’d never have switched to another game if Man Utd or Liverpool were opening a new stadium”.....you know the kind of posts!
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If either Spurs hadn't blown their title chances in last 5 games or so or if the Stadium wasn't opening in fucking April I am sure the whole game would have been shown. As it stands though as much as I hate Sky I can understand them preferring to show the City game as part of their hype to the bollocks title run in bollocks no doubt.
 
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prestonibbo_mcfc said:
Well yes, you did. You said it might not be AS attractive to the neutral.
AS attractive, as the Spurs match, I take. FFFFFFFFS ;-)
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Ummm......I said that it might not be SUCH an attractive spectacle for the neutral. It is a statement that stands on its own and needs no reference to any other game. It was not intended as, nor does it necessarily signify, a comparison to the Spurs v Palace game. FFFFFFFFFS! ;-)
 
Tbf I reckon spurs v palace would be a better game than us v Cardiff who will park the bus and try to kick us out of the game. Palace will at least try and play football and are capable of getting a result away from home as we know.

Our game obviously has more riding on it though and I'm sure sky want to be there to record any slip ups we might make.
 
EricBrooksGhost said:
That makes a change; then again.....
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Unlike those who claimed that it was obviously Spurs' dastardly plan all along to spend two seasons at Wembley; to spend tens of millions extra on thousands of hours of overtime to pretend that they were trying to get the stadium ready for September; to pay another £10-15 million to Wembley; to lose further millions paying back season ticket holders who were sick of Wembley; to lose out on maybe millions more from the NFL and others who wished to hire the stadium........all so that they could gain the massive advantage of.....well, err.........umm....playing nearly a whole second season of home games at a neutral venue and......err......well, that's it, really.

Those people really, really did know what they were talking about, right? ;-)
 
JimB said:
Unlike those who claimed that it was obviously Spurs' dastardly plan all along to spend two seasons at Wembley; to spend tens of millions extra on thousands of hours of overtime to pretend that they were trying to get the stadium ready for September; to pay another £10-15 million to Wembley; to lose further millions paying back season ticket holders who were sick of Wembley; to lose out on maybe millions more from the NFL and others who wished to hire the stadium........all so that they could gain the massive advantage of.....well, err.........umm....playing nearly a whole second season of home games at a neutral venue and......err......well, that's it, really.

Those people really, really did know what they were talking about, right? ;-)
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Purely as a matter of interest @JimB , how much further is Wembley stadium for you to travel to instead of WHL, in terms of distance, time, cost, etc?

Other regular Spurs contributors are also welcome to reply.

I ask because there is no real difference between my journeys to both Maine Road and the Etihad in terms of mileage, time and cost, despite them being in different areas of Manchester. I appreciate that your relocation is only temporary (safety checks permitting ;-) ) and mine is permanent, but I am curious as to whether this has any bearing on the large disparity between attendances.
 
crazyg said:
Purely as a matter of interest @JimB , how much further is Wembley stadium for you to travel to instead of WHL, in terms of distance, time, cost, etc?

Other regular Spurs contributors are also welcome to reply.

I ask because there is no real difference between my journeys to both Maine Road and the Etihad in terms of mileage, time and cost, despite them being in different areas of Manchester. I appreciate that your relocation is only temporary (safety checks permitting ;-) ) and mine is permanent, but I am curious as to whether this has any bearing on the large disparity between attendances.
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For me the journey between WHL and Wembley is very similar in terms of actual time. But it is not the same as the routine I have been doing for decades. Tottenham is a shit hole but it is our shit hole.

Our attendances at WHL were always around 98-99% of capacity with the other couple of percent due to segregation etc.

The reason we 'needed' a bigger ground is because we have 42.5k season ticket holders and 176k members.

The attendances dropped off towards the end at Wembley because we were fed up with it. It was soul destroying and those of us that made the effort were surrounded by tourists in half and half scarves eating popcorn.
 
crazyg said:
Purely as a matter of interest @JimB , how much further is Wembley stadium for you to travel to instead of WHL, in terms of distance, time, cost, etc?

Other regular Spurs contributors are also welcome to reply.

I ask because there is no real difference between my journeys to both Maine Road and the Etihad in terms of mileage, time and cost, despite them being in different areas of Manchester. I appreciate that your relocation is only temporary (safety checks permitting ;-) ) and mine is permanent, but I am curious as to whether this has any bearing on the large disparity between attendances.
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For me, it's actually far easier to go to Wembley. I used to live in Shepherds Bush (west central London) and it took as little as 30 minutes to get to Wembley. By comparison, getting to Tottenham usually took an hour, give or take. I've recently moved out of London - southwest. So the same applies, only with the added journey to get into London. I would imagine that Wembley is actually easier to get to for a fair proportion of Spurs fans.

But it's really not about the time or distance of travel. The declining attendances were all about Wembley as a venue. It's vast and soulless - great to go there for the occasional cup final but awful as a stadium in which to watch your team every other week for two years. Above all, it's not home. By which, I don't just mean the stadium itself but the area as a whole. Tottenham has loads of pubs. Our pubs. Where we know we'll see old faces and friends. Familiar match day routines and traditions. These things are especially important in London, I think, because of its sheer size. It's territorial in a way which no other UK city is.

On top of which, as decent as the facilities at Wembley are, they aren't a patch on what the new stadium promises to offer. The views from the seats even less so. And, this season, those of us who are season ticket holders had paid easily the highest prices in the country (per game) for the facilities and views at the new stadium. So to find ourselves trudging back to Wembley every other week while paying 50% more than we did last season was too much for some. They just refused to go any more and took the refunds instead.

Anyway, the wait is almost over. The first test event - an U18 game - is tomorrow afternoon. I've devoured every rumour and scrap of news about this project since before it even got going (some 12 years ago); and watched the new stadium rise bit by bit; and I'm feeling giddy as a schoolboy now about walking up those steps to see the pitch and the stands for the first time tomorrow.
 
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JimB said:
For me, it's actually far easier to go to Wembley. I used to live in Shepherds Bush (west central London) and it took as little as 30 minutes to get to Wembley. By comparison, getting to Tottenham usually took an hour, give or take. I've recently moved out of London - southwest. So the same applies, only with the added journey to get into London. I would imagine that Wembley is actually easier to get to for a fair proportion of Spurs fans.

But it's really not about the time or distance of travel. The declining attendances were all about Wembley as a venue. It's vast and soulless - great to go there for the occasional cup final but awful as a stadium in which to watch your team every other week for two years. Above all, it's not home. By which, I don't just mean the stadium itself but the area as a whole. Tottenham has loads of pubs. Our pubs. Where we know we'll see old faces and friends. Familiar match day routines and traditions. These things are especially important in London, I think, because of its sheer size. It's territorial in a way which no other UK city is.

On top of which, as decent as the facilities at Wembley are, they aren't a patch on what the new stadium promises to offer. The views from the seats even less so. And, this season, those of us who are season ticket holders had paid easily the highest prices in the country (per game) for the facilities and views at the new stadium. So to find ourselves trudging back to Wembley every other week while paying 50% more than we did last season was too much for some. They just refused to go any more and took the refunds instead.

Anyway, the wait is almost over. The first test event - an U18 game - is tomorrow afternoon. I've devoured every rumour and scrap of news about this project since before it even got going (some 12 years ago); and watched the new stadium rise bit by bit; and I'm feeling giddy as a schoolboy now about walking up those steps to see the pitch and the stands for the first time tomorrow.
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It’s such a great feeling.

What a fantastic stadium.
 
JimB said:
For me, it's actually far easier to go to Wembley. I used to live in Shepherds Bush (west central London) and it took as little as 30 minutes to get to Wembley. By comparison, getting to Tottenham usually took an hour, give or take. I've recently moved out of London - southwest. So the same applies, only with the added journey to get into London. I would imagine that Wembley is actually easier to get to for a fair proportion of Spurs fans.

But it's really not about the time or distance of travel. The declining attendances were all about Wembley as a venue. It's vast and soulless - great to go there for the occasional cup final but awful as a stadium in which to watch your team every other week for two years. Above all, it's not home. By which, I don't just mean the stadium itself but the area as a whole. Tottenham has loads of pubs. Our pubs. Where we know we'll see old faces and friends. Familiar match day routines and traditions. These things are especially important in London, I think, because of its sheer size. It's territorial in a way which no other UK city is.

On top of which, as decent as the facilities at Wembley are, they aren't a patch on what the new stadium promises to offer. The views from the seats even less so. And, this season, those of us who are season ticket holders had paid easily the highest prices in the country (per game) for the facilities and views at the new stadium. So to find ourselves trudging back to Wembley every other week while paying 50% more than we did last season was too much for some. They just refused to go any more and took the refunds instead.

Anyway, the wait is almost over. The first test event - an U18 game - is tomorrow afternoon. I've devoured every rumour and scrap of news about this project since before it even got going (some 12 years ago); and watched the new stadium rise bit by bit; and I'm feeling giddy as a schoolboy now about walking up those steps to see the pitch and the stands for the first time tomorrow.
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Nailed it.
 
JimB said:
For me, it's actually far easier to go to Wembley. I used to live in Shepherds Bush (west central London) and it took as little as 30 minutes to get to Wembley. By comparison, getting to Tottenham usually took an hour, give or take. I've recently moved out of London - southwest. So the same applies, only with the added journey to get into London. I would imagine that Wembley is actually easier to get to for a fair proportion of Spurs fans.

But it's really not about the time or distance of travel. The declining attendances were all about Wembley as a venue. It's vast and soulless - great to go there for the occasional cup final but awful as a stadium in which to watch your team every other week for two years. Above all, it's not home. By which, I don't just mean the stadium itself but the area as a whole. Tottenham has loads of pubs. Our pubs. Where we know we'll see old faces and friends. Familiar match day routines and traditions. These things are especially important in London, I think, because of its sheer size. It's territorial in a way which no other UK city is.

On top of which, as decent as the facilities at Wembley are, they aren't a patch on what the new stadium promises to offer. The views from the seats even less so. And, this season, those of us who are season ticket holders had paid easily the highest prices in the country (per game) for the facilities and views at the new stadium. So to find ourselves trudging back to Wembley every other week while paying 50% more than we did last season was too much for some. They just refused to go any more and took the refunds instead.

Anyway, the wait is almost over. The first test event - an U18 game - is tomorrow afternoon. I've devoured every rumour and scrap of news about this project since before it even got going (some 12 years ago); and watched the new stadium rise bit by bit; and I'm feeling giddy as a schoolboy now about walking up those steps to see the pitch and the stands for the first time tomorrow.
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Enjoy the experience mate.
 
To @JimB and @SpursLoyal, thanks for your replies. I love the comment about Tottenham being "our shithole" - it reminds me of Moss Side in so many ways (including riots!), but I suppose each area defines the club. The Etihad in comarison to Maine Road is a quantum leap forward in comfort and accessibility, but it's not the Kippax, where I used to stand. I'm getting used to it, though.
The last time I was in your area was visiting a company on Paxton road/street, which is probably now part of your new stand, but that was when I was a hitman for the Revenue!
I must admit, ignoring the "toilet bowl" jibe I made previously, it does look fantastic, with or without the cheese room. I hope the Season Ticket prices you both pay become a bargain (but not at our expense, obviously), compared to the £400 I pay (geriatric rate).

With regard to Wembley, even I'm getting pissed off with it - it could be 5 visits in little over a year by the end of the season! It's a bugger to get to for someone with walking difficulties, being all uphill, and the prices inside must be set by the Kray Twins. Still, the price of success is not cheap - I remember vividly the years of dreaming of the "twin towers".

Good luck in your new home.
 
JimB said:
For me, it's actually far easier to go to Wembley. I used to live in Shepherds Bush (west central London) and it took as little as 30 minutes to get to Wembley. By comparison, getting to Tottenham usually took an hour, give or take. I've recently moved out of London - southwest. So the same applies, only with the added journey to get into London. I would imagine that Wembley is actually easier to get to for a fair proportion of Spurs fans.

But it's really not about the time or distance of travel. The declining attendances were all about Wembley as a venue. It's vast and soulless - great to go there for the occasional cup final but awful as a stadium in which to watch your team every other week for two years. Above all, it's not home. By which, I don't just mean the stadium itself but the area as a whole. Tottenham has loads of pubs. Our pubs. Where we know we'll see old faces and friends. Familiar match day routines and traditions. These things are especially important in London, I think, because of its sheer size. It's territorial in a way which no other UK city is.

On top of which, as decent as the facilities at Wembley are, they aren't a patch on what the new stadium promises to offer. The views from the seats even less so. And, this season, those of us who are season ticket holders had paid easily the highest prices in the country (per game) for the facilities and views at the new stadium. So to find ourselves trudging back to Wembley every other week while paying 50% more than we did last season was too much for some. They just refused to go any more and took the refunds instead.

Anyway, the wait is almost over. The first test event - an U18 game - is tomorrow afternoon. I've devoured every rumour and scrap of news about this project since before it even got going (some 12 years ago); and watched the new stadium rise bit by bit; and I'm feeling giddy as a schoolboy now about walking up those steps to see the pitch and the stands for the first time tomorrow.
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I agree with you regarding Wembley; it’s lacking in atmosphere and I don’t like the neutrality of the place, though I’ve never been there for a Spurs' home game, of course, so can’t comment on what it’s like from that point of view.
 
crazyg said:
To @JimB and @SpursLoyal, thanks for your replies. I love the comment about Tottenham being "our shithole" - it reminds me of Moss Side in so many ways (including riots!), but I suppose each area defines the club. The Etihad in comarison to Maine Road is a quantum leap forward in comfort and accessibility, but it's not the Kippax, where I used to stand. I'm getting used to it, though.
The last time I was in your area was visiting a company on Paxton road/street, which is probably now part of your new stand, but that was when I was a hitman for the Revenue!
I must admit, ignoring the "toilet bowl" jibe I made previously, it does look fantastic, with or without the cheese room. I hope the Season Ticket prices you both pay become a bargain (but not at our expense, obviously), compared to the £400 I pay (geriatric rate).

With regard to Wembley, even I'm getting pissed off with it - it could be 5 visits in little over a year by the end of the season! It's a bugger to get to for someone with walking difficulties, being all uphill, and the prices inside must be set by the Kray Twins. Still, the price of success is not cheap - I remember vividly the years of dreaming of the "twin towers".

Good luck in your new home.
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Cheers mate. U18's kick off in 2.5 hours! I have to wait for the Legends next week! (Legends = anyone that played a game for us that isn't dead).
 
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