Spurs (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

[eyalluvitt]

I really can’t believe my eyes at times this season, we added arguably the worlds best striker to arguably the worlds best team and Pep has turned us into Stuart Pearce’s Manchester City 0 in six months

 

[Kamaro011]

A relatively poor performance today, with Grealish and Ake being the only real positives. Rodri, who I have long been a supporter of, was isolated in the centre, and vulnerable because of that: he had a poor game. We moved the ball slowly, as we tend to when we are not quite on it, allowing Spurs to set up the banks of defenders, and they broke at speed. They did not dominate the match; Kane's was not a superstar performance - the commentators' yearning to celebrate every single Spurs move forward was nauseating and biased.

It was also a poor (planned) refereeing display, with Grealish targeted time and time again with little action taken, at least not soon enough for it to positively affect the game in our direction. Again, we saw Lewis targeted too, yet carded for his own, innocuous response.

What I do not understand, from some posters here, are the reactions such as Pep's lost it, he's lost the dressing room, or Grealish still needs to do more. Those reactions are just embarrassing (to me), and not based on anything we know, nor that can be seen.

This is clearly a season of transition, for us and others, and we are in the mix, but we are not the favourites we have become accustomed to being. I would be happier if some posters would behave like we do not have any divine right, and that we (above nearly all other fans of big teams) understand that football is cyclical, and sequences of unchallenged and repeat success are unrealistic to expect.

It's embarassing, it's like 4 PL in five years and many more titles is gone like that. The achievement this team over the year is forgotten because just one fucking game.

If we didn't win any title this season so what, we do it again next season. It's not the end of fucking world.

 

[Tolmie scores]

I would rather kick every single one of these players out before I kick Pep.

He is fed up, let him go. He hares it now it seems, worse thing ever to keep him

 

[blueabdi]

Just back from the game.

For the sake of the 'get a grip' squad - I still pinch myself that we are playing Premier League football, and my away trips are not to Gillingham or Chesterfield, and I am equally delighted to be watching world class players who I had never dreamed would ever play for my club.

I am not an entitled plastic. However, in the context of what we have seen during this crazy last decade - something is clearly wrong this season.

We are privileged to have Pep as our gaffer, and I will be the first to build a statue to him when he moves on - BUT - something isn't quite right.

I was sat right behind KDB and Gundog warming up, and it was interesting that their body language was apathetic, disinterested and most of the time on the line, they spent shrugging and whispering to each other. All very strange.

No idea what we need to do - but something needs to happen if we want to win anything this season - and if we don't want to - that's fine with me too - I will be there wether we are playing Barcelona or Billericay...

Great insight, thanks. Something is not right. Hopefully pep and his team will sort out.

 

[madloaf]

If you don’t think Haaland is a part of that problem, you’re mistaken.

I disagree. The problem is solely on the style of play. Now, if you say that Haaland can only play one style of play then i would agree, but there is no evidence at all that he has to play in this current style. In fact, his every move on the pitch suggests he fucking hates it. You saw how often he shrugged, pouted and looked frustrated today?

 

[ancoats]

The media have always been cunts to us. Nowt new there but the openness of the meltdown is unusual for us. It’ll be interesting to see what happens this week.

I have a feeling come Monday morning a very big meeting will be planned, players, manager, coaches, the board, will all be there, they will bash out a plan and pep will have to eat humble pie and revert to the old system, players that have a status at the club will have to play at the start, laporte dias foden Kdb gundogan all have to play

 

[Paul1970]

Why does Pep always choose crucial games to experiment with team selection, formation and tactics? Did any City fan really believe we could win this game when they saw the team selection and the players left on the bench??

Maximum publicity would never do it against Fulham on a 3 pm kick off .

 

[Shaffer92]

5 visits, 5 pathetic spineless defeats …. reminds me of the good old bad old days.

We’re winning nothing this season.

Leipzig(who’s unbeaten in something like 16 matches) at 4 to 1 to qualify sire does look tempting at the moment.

 

[ysmsa]

Positive slant on it - traditionally we would always lose at Spurs, United and scousers. Any points picked up were a welcome surprise, so losing our three away games at these 'normal' bogey grounds doesn't feel too bad for me cos I'm so used to losing them anyway.

Traditionally lose at the Rags?

So all those dominant victories in title winning seasons were imagined!

 

[Cityinmyheart]

I edited it if that makes any difference to my score?

You are still not answering the question. If you want me to repeat....who will Barca, Bayern and Real look to sign if we put both Ake and Laporte on the market for the same amount of transfer fee.

 

[Tolmie scores]

I really can’t believe my eyes at times this season, we added arguably the worlds best striker to arguably the worlds best team and Pep has turned us into Stuart Pearce’s Manchester City 0 in six months

Add a striker to a team that has no idea or will to play with one. Cluster fuck decision..listening to 'fans and media;' i cringed when i heard Haaland's name

 

[Alcatraz]

Been said many times, but obvious to all tonight…..no leaders on the park.
I like Rico, a great talent, but not the night for him.
A s for the senior players……….well….

 

[Manc123]

They do everything to please Pep, which also includes giving him the type of players he wants to play a certain way, regardless of name.

We are making stupid mistakes in the market, trying to replace legends.

£100m on Jack, £42m on Ake, £42m on Phillips, £16m on Akanji.

£200m on players who we either didn't need or wouldn't exactly miss if we had kept the money in the bank.

The problem is the first cycle under Pep still included Silva, Fern, Vinny, Sergio.

This next evolution is looking to players who are far removed from that talent and mindset.

And the ones who might have it in De Bruyne and Gundo are past their peaks.

I am more fearful that we can't evolve again with Pep at the helm, simply because he is wedded to a philosophy which may have also come to the end of its cycle.

Pep should have got himself a strong assistant in the summer, rather than a bunch of yes men.

he deffo needs a strong assistant.

I dont think the signings are that bad personally. I do think ake and akanji were signed to be 4/5th choice defenders and they are currently being first team 11 which is an issue. I personally think phillips is probably ok for replacing the ferna that left the issue is hes not been fit and now needs time to settle because of the disruption. I personally think jack needs to play as an 8 i dont think he suits the high wide profile.

i think we have a huge job in the summer. Personally id get rid of any player who doesnt want to be here. I think its about time phil started being developed into the midfielder that we know he will be rather than a winger and get 2 new wingers personally. Get back to having 2 quality players in each position. I do have a feeling a big summer transfer rebuild is going to be happening.

i dont think its the end of the pep cycle i think he needs someone who will tell him that somethings clearly not working. I think its time to play the fast passing movement football but that needs young fresh players.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

There is NO evidence to suggest we can win that we are soooooo far away quality wise. Play ANY English side = lose can you honestly say it will be different?

Madrid were shit last year, they won it.

It's incredibly rare that teams win the league and the CL in a season.

 

[sharky.mcfc.]

At this point I’d give Carlos Borges a go on the wing the team is massively lacking a spark and a some pace. All very predictable.

 

[wattle]

I won’t forget but I won’t ignore what’s happening now. This team is coming to an end. We need to move 3/4 on and hope the recruitment is spot on. Fans get angry or upset it’s what we do. Some of those players regardless of how they have played in the past are clearly not performing. Pep is not helping with the ponderous slow ball we now deliver.

We all need to take a breather and chill. We can’t win the league every season and we will have dips. I’m trying to stay positive but watching us at the min is a bag of emotions and some of those spill out.

Unless the boss rips up his playbook and tries something different we are not good enough to win the league. Maybe a trophy but you need consistency to win the title and we don’t have it. Also create next to nothing and it adds up to a crap season.

I get that and agree with most of it. I just think it’s incredibly Arrogant and rag/dipper like to demand/expect it. We are deffo in need of a rebuild and I said to my lad at half time in the palace match that’s it’s going to be a transition season. Haaland went mad for a few weeks and got all our hopes up again but it was just papering over the natural cracks of evolution. If we Win the FA cup and finish 2nd then I think I’d be a great season considering where we are atm. Look at the dippers! Now that’s a crisis. City have obviously been planning for this overhaul for a few years - hence the lack of spending. Pep knows what’s happening and is up for it or else he wouldn’t have signed his extension. For fans on here to say he’s lost it and must go is just incredibly thick or childish. Who else in world football would you want to rebuild your team? At least we’re getting to see who won’t be up for it in this period. That’s as vital as finding the players that’ll fit in

 

[ancoats]

Fa cup and champions league will have to do???

winning both are a long way off from what we are dishing up right now

 

[madloaf]

Madrid were shit last year, they won it.

It's incredibly rare that teams win the league and the CL in a season.

Anyone can win a cup competition. We've got a chance. I'm not sticking any of my money on it though, are you?

 

[Bluetobits1951]

If you don’t think Haaland is a part of that problem, you’re mistaken.

I have watched most of Haalands goals for Dortmund and the vast majority are him running onto through balls not headers tap ins from 2 yards but everyone packs the midfield/central defence against us so no service especially as we have no wingers

 

[hilts]

Ok am with you regards Haaland but why aren’t we , we need a proper winger who can also get in the box to score goals I totally appreciate Sterling is not coming back but we need someone like him and I don’t know anyone who matches his figures

I have no problem with that type of player. You would need to ask pep. We need to know who is staying or leaving before we can discuss replacements. But to get the most out of Haaland and ultimately play better we need to move foden / grealish inside. Get 2 wide players and finally an over lapping left back who can defend.

If Silva gundog kdb are either offski or past their best and Phillips and gomez are not going to make it we need to start planning now. Too much to solve in the summer otherwise.

Let's hope it just shit form but I doubt it.