Spurs (A) - Post-Match Thread

Meh game, credit to Spurs for executing their game plan perfectly.

Concerns-
1. Substitutions too late, Foden should've started over FFS.
2. No more pace? Seriously? Where has it gone?
3.Bernardo is not able to do that David Silva role.
4. Rodri: ineffective defensively

Positives-
1. Ferran reminded me a bit of Sané in the first 20 minutes (hugging the touchline and getting past their RB)
2. We can't get worse than this, can we?

Thoughts-
1. Maybe the best course of action is to target getting into the top 4 as soon as possible and not think about goals scored/conceded (Target clean sheets, get 1-0s and 2-0s until we are back in form) Stop dreaming about the title effective immediately
2. Integrate our youth? If our title chances are skint, why not try our quality youngsters like Braaf, Delap and Palmer?
3. Pep's philosophy will only work with the best.
4. Take our high line maybe a few yards behind, it would've stopped both their goals.
 
Beanhead said:
Rodri was not our problem.. he played well particularly in the first half. Our problem is not individual. It’s collective. We need to change the way we play.
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i completey agree with you in one sense - but im not just thinking about this game. Rodri is a part of the problem which is our midfield being not dynamic enough.....as is Gundugan, and as ageing Ferna plus Mahrez and Bernardo Silva who are under performing on a regular basis.

But rodri is part of that problem and his lack of mobility, dynamism and slowness of play are contributing factors to this....
 
sir baconface said:
Oy! Please respect our istree of being shite. Our DNA was written by it. Be grateful for everything. Question nothing. God save Alan Ball. (Whoops, a bit late there. Now I’m living in the past too.)
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Yup, Division Two, York, Piss down back of the leg in the kippax, swales out badge, yadda, yadda, yadda.
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
What ....Are you for real about Rodri being put on Kane and follow him?

Did you not see rodri trying to race after kane for their 2nd goal, but looked like he was trapped in cement.

Rodri is nowhere near good enough and tonight was another example of why he is nit good enough.
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He doesn't have to have a full blown sprint with Kane on every single occasion, Stop the supply of the fucking ball going to Kane in midfield, Cynical foul him if you have to, Just don't let him recieve the ball and get turned to get his head up and pick a pass.
Yet our centre half had to constantly do this and be dragged out of position for Tottenham wide men to run into the space.
It's pretty basic shit that you learn at an early age seems we can't even that properly.
 
When that goal was ruled out I knew we'd lose 2-0

We were playing quite well too but ultimately coming up short. Pep got it right in his summing up but we are quite easy to play against. I think we're in trouble.

KDB is not going to get fit any time soon. I am not sure he'll ever get back to those magical levels. We need to bin Mahrez and play Foden centrally. KDB has not got the legs in the middle. I think I'd get rid of Rodri too. He's too slow and does not offer the protection we need.

There's only really Jesus, Foden and Torres who are performing at the moment. Bernardo, Mahrez and de Bruyne are way off.
 
Fuck all creativity once again and pathetic team selection and delayed subs once again.

The sooner Pep is sacked the sooner we can rebuild.

It’s a shame but he’s lost the plot.
 
argyle said:
He was out thought today.

Didn't anticipate Mourinho parking the bus (which he always does), didn't change it through the match, allowed the above to happen and brought on subs too late.

I think Pep maybe has it too easy at City. There is little pressure from above for him to change things.
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Only 10 teams.
 
Marvin said:
When that goal was ruled out I knew we'd lose 2-0

We were playing quite well too but ultimately coming up short. Pep got it right in his summing up but we are quite easy to play against. I think we're in trouble.

KDB is not going to get fit any time soon. I am not sure he'll ever get back to those magical levels. We need to bin Mahrez and play Foden centrally. KDB has not got the legs in the middle. I think I'd get rid of Rodri too. He's too slow and does not offer the protection we need.

There's only really Jesus, Foden and Torres who are performing at the moment. Bernardo, Mahrez and de Bruyne are way off.
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KDB’s a treasure but he looks half bolloxed. We have to give the guy some sort of break or risk him either being out for another lengthy period (worst case) or showing patchy form (best case).

Short term pain for long term gain.

Not sure the captaincy sits comfortably with him either. He doesn’t seem a natural leader and is possibly taking on too much for his own good.
 
1.Poor recruitment (mahrez,Bernie,rodders)
2.We need a 30 goal forward.
3.No David Silva nor Fernandinho replacements

Kev is not being utilised in his best position. He is being run ragged trying to make things happen and not as effective.

The press is gone.
The passing at pace is gone.
One touch is gone.
The patient game is gone without Dave.
The counter attack is causing huge problems without Fern.
The transition from back to front is gone.
Teams sit back and wait they don’t press us anymore so that tactic is useless now.

Pep has been talking rubbish for months. We have regressed at an alarming rate and the management need to take responsibility and figure out how to beat this new system teams are using so effectively against us.

Dias,Ake,torres and Foden, Walker are the only positives this year. The rest of the players look beat as soon as we don’t score the first goal.

We are stuck in a loop playing the same shit now each week. Someone needs to take charge. The players need to step up.

Honest discussions needed and Pep needs to change it is that simple.
 
r.soleofsalford said:
Apart from Mahrez being picked and the injuries or lack of match fitness I thought the team picked was as strong a team as we could put on the pitch.

Having said that, every team in every league know our Krytonite.

They know if they sit back and throw 2 lines of 4 tightly together we will struggle to get through there lines. We also allow both fullbacks to venture forward which allow us to get countered with pace. They know if they sit there long enough we will lose possession and they will be able to attack our stretched defense. IMO Kyle Walker must be used to defend and be part of the last line of defense utilising his electric pace, Not as an attacking option which the vast majority of times comes to nothing.

Most importantly we need a defensive coach because we are absolutely fucking dire at defending. I`m of the opinion that who ever we buy in defense we will turn to shit because of our system.

Because we are so frail in defense it means the opponents can afford to sit and wait for the missed pass which lets them in.

Even Port Vale used this ploy against us.
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Our defence is still one of the best in the prem

it’s the other end of the pitch where our troubles lie.

I can’t put my finger on it because we have so much attacking talent but not only are we missing big chances we’re also creating far less big chances.
 
wolviedinho said:
1.Poor recruitment (mahrez,Bernie,rodders)
2.We need a 30 goal forward.
3.No David Silva nor Fernandinho replacements

Kev is not being utilised in his best position. He is being run ragged trying to make things happen and not as effective.

The press is gone.
The passing at pace is gone.
One touch is gone.
The patient game is gone without Dave.
The counter attack is causing huge problems without Fern.
The transition from back to front is gone.
Teams sit back and wait they don’t press us anymore so that tactic is useless now.

Pep has been talking rubbish for months. We have regressed at an alarming rate and the management need to take responsibility and figure out how to beat this new system teams are using so effectively against us.

Dias,Ake,torres and Foden, Walker are the only positives this year. The rest of the players look beat as soon as we don’t score the first goal.

We are stuck in a loop playing the same shit now each week. Someone needs to take charge. The players need to step up.

Honest discussions needed and Pep needs to change it is that simple.
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Bernardo didn’t have his best game but poor recruitment?
 
MillsyTheMosher said:
Fuck all creativity once again and pathetic team selection and delayed subs once again.

The sooner Pep is sacked the sooner we can rebuild.

It’s a shame but he’s lost the plot.
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He just had a contract extension. We've got most of the players back now, and some relatively easier games ahead, so let's see where we are after 4 weeks.
 
Horlocksleftpeg said:
Bernardo didn’t have his best game but poor recruitment?
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Yes he was fantastic but he is not the same player. Currently he is not good enough and should not be in the team. Can’t fault his effort but he does not influence games. One good season does not give him a pass.

It is looking like another bad buy unless he can turn around this 12 month slump.
 
sir baconface said:
KDB’s a treasure but he looks half bolloxed. We have to give the guy some sort of break or risk him either being out for another lengthy period (worst case) or showing patchy form (best case).

Short term pain for long term gain.

Not sure the captaincy sits comfortably with him either. He doesn’t seem a natural leader and is possibly taking on too much for his own good.
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Rest him for Olympiacos and Burnley. Take the captaincy off him as well. Maybe give it to Dias.
 
Until we get back the pace of movement , tempo and be far more resilient when we don't have the ball we will be closer to the 16th than 6th.

We have been off from the outset the season lacking imagination and creativity playing really mundane , predictable , boring football and easy to pick off and no fight in us when we concede and go behind.

We have to win the next 5 games to get back in the ball game and who would want to stake their weeks pay packet on that.
 
I am not saying pep has to change his philosophy as we all know he won’t. He needs to tweak his tactics to deal with how teams are beating us. It is that simple but he is too stubborn and is adamant we can play through this bad period.

He blames injuries.
He blames not having enough substitutions.
He blames having to play too many games.

He blames everything but the simple fact that he is setting the team up to fail because he won’t tweak his system to counter this new approach teams are taking.

For the good of the club he needs to adapt.
 
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