Spurs (A) | Post-Match Thread

[FantasyIreland]

45 mins Stones, 45mins Laporte, we have a bench full of internationals, we have a squad, we have no game for 7 days, use your squad, use your bench.

This season there will be no comeback from a bad start, the competition is and will be far stronger, the season started yesterday not November like last season

Another example of where Pep can do no wrong.Had he used his bench better yesterday then we don't come away with a loss. ....it was clear as day that players were struggling in the second half and it was only a matter of time before we crumbled.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Literally the only reason Pep started Mendy is because he feels that we don't yet have a fit Zinchenko and Walker. It's painfully obvious. Everyone knows as soon as they're back Mendy is also back on the bench behind Zinny and Cancelo at LB.

Some common sense at last. I had half thought that he might have played Walker and Cancelo as the full backs and then replaced Walker with Zinny after an hour. As much as I like Mendy everything he does seems to be reactive and about a second after he should have done anything. In my eyes he is now about fifth choice left back behind Zinny, Cancelo, Ake and Laporte. I might even be tempted to play Walker there as well before him so that pushes him down further. Sad to say but we need to cut our losses if possible as he just isn't up to the standard we require and possibly the PL is too quick for him. And all because he was couldn't resist hacking down Townsend I think.

 

[Dribble]

Curious selections?

He played those that have had the most time in pre-season and that himself and his staff concluded are the fittest and in the best position to play. What is curious. Yesterday was the most expensive 11 to ever play in a premier league game so if they are not up to it then we are properly fucked.

"get the job done" ffs. We weren't playing some friendly against part timers in Slovakia.

We paid what we thought those players were worth. By your metric, the team we put out should far & away have been the best to ever grace the Premier League, if money is the only judge of how good a team is???

Yes, get the fuckin job done, & then introduce Mendy, Aké & the rest. It really is that simple. :-|

 

[Chi-town blues]

Mendy giving the ball away repeatedly in dangerous positions is not following instructions.
99% of our supporters yesterday knew he was a weak link.
Unfortunately he proved us right.
Son swapped wings the second half because they saw how shite he was.

Son saw the vacant space not mendys weakness

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Mendy did NOT have a decent game, he was dire.

Not sure he was as good as that to be honest. Arguably one of the worst displays in the past 50 odd years since I started watching.

 

[OB1]

It doesn’t seem to be in his DNA but I really wish Pep would consider a back 3 system. We have a glut of usable CBs (Walker would play cb in a 3) and our fullback situation is pretty dire. Would allow us to get more midfield types on the pitch and try to free up the KDB or Grealish in attacking roles.

All just idle speculation and not something Pep has shown any interest in of course

He effectively played three at the back numerous times last season.

Walker often played on the right of a three while Zin moved into midfield.

And when Cancelo played instead of Kyle, we used three actual CBs at times and Cancelo essentially played in midfield.

Yesterday, the formation was more of a 2-3-5, the average positions were virtually three flat lines so Grealish, for instance, was part of a front five.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Pep having another brain fart.
No striker but Jesus on the bench.
I'm sorry but it was obvious they were gonna score eventually.
Two fucking loses now.

a rag tosser sent me a tweet saying next time you feel useless just remember how Gabriel Jesus must feel , being a back up striker to a striker we don’t even have .

 

[decmancity]

We paid what we thought those players were worth. By your metric, the team we put out should far & away have been the best to ever grace the Premier League, if money is the only judge of how good a team is???

Yes, get the fuckin job done, & then introduce Mendy, Aké & the rest. It really is that simple. :-|

No money is not the only judge but you are talking like Mendy and Ake are League 2 players not up to the standard of a premier league game. If they aren't capable of playing against spuds who barely finished top 10 last year then its a huge fucking problem and we can't sit here and moan of how we didnt have Stones or KDB out there. What if they both break their leg next week and never play again. Fucking nonsense.

Was a shite performance. End of.

In fact, I seem to remember KDB, Zinchenko and Stones playing against spurs last year, how did that go? Oh yeah, we lost.

 

[OB1]

By your metric, playing him at all must be even more stupid. Think about what you're posting mate... \0/

That would be an assessment for Pep and City's medical experts.

It really is quite simple, he was deemed fit enough to play a for a limited time if absolutely necessary but not for long enough that they wanted to risk starting him or only playing him for a short time from the start.

They took a risk bringing him on and we will have to hope that in doing so they have not set him back because that would be a misjudgment. However, whilst there may be some uncertainty about whether or not he should come on for the last 15 minutes; there's substantially less about whether it made sense to start him: it didn't.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

That would be an assessment for Pep and City's medical experts.

It really is quite simple, he was deemed fit enough to play a for a limited time if absolutely necessary but not for long enough that they wanted to risk starting him or only playing him for a short time from the start.

They took a risk bringing him on and we will have to hope that in doing so they have not set him back because that would be a misjudgment. However, whilst there may be some uncertainty about whether or not he should come on for the last 15 minutes; there's substantially less about whether it made sense to start him: it didn't.

These threads are the route to madness mate. Duck out, let them talk ill-informed shit to each other about playing strongest teams and respecting the badge and putting effort in and all that other fan nonsense.

It's always worth coming back to the threads at the end of the season just to shine a light on the worst. The ignoramus you're in "debate" with here has form.

 

[Dribble]

No money is not the only judge but you are talking like Mendy and Ake are League 2 players not up to the standard of a premier league game. If they aren't capable of playing against spuds who barely finished top 10 last year then its a huge fucking problem and we can't sit here and moan of how we didnt have Stones or KDB out there. What if they both break their leg next week and never play again. Fucking nonsense.

Was a shite performance. End of.

In fact, I seem to remember KDB, Zinchenko and Stones playing against spurs last year, how did that go? Oh yeah, we lost.

So if the money we paid for our players is no indicator of how good our team should perform, why are you mentioning money? :-|

As I said in my very first post in this thread, I have defended Mendy & believed he just needed to get fit, regain his match fitness & be given a proper chance to prove his worth.

However, after losing the ball for the THIRD time in the first half, which immediately put us under pressure, even my patience was wearing thin. Then seeing him struggle with pace to get back & avenge his mistakes, I then had to question what use he was to us. Becoming totally deflated with him happened when I saw him being repeatedly twisted inside out when defending.

In the plus side he did put in a 2 - 3 menacing crosses into the box, & there was the one sweet as fuck crossfield pass to Mahrez which was sublime, but when you weigh up what is expected from to £40m-£50m defender, Mendy fell way short. It's now at the point where even I'm struggling to find plus points to playing him.

Personally, I don't think yesterday's defence had much to do with the match fitness of the returning players, I think it was more to do with Pep wanting to keep faith with the defence who played the majority of pre-season. However, Spurs away in the PL is a totally different proposition to Preston & Barnsley at CFA in pre-season friendlies.

 

[Dribble]

That would be an assessment for Pep and City's medical experts.

It really is quite simple, he was deemed fit enough to play a for a limited time if absolutely necessary but not for long enough that they wanted to risk starting him or only playing him for a short time from the start.

They took a risk bringing him on and we will have to hope that in doing so they have not set him back because that would be a misjudgment. However, whilst there may be some uncertainty about whether or not he should come on for the last 15 minutes; there's substantially less about whether it made sense to start him: it didn't.

My Son is a Clinical Physiotherapist & strength & conditioning coach at Regional Athletics Arena. He also has a private practice with several clients from City & ManUre.

I was talking to him about this yesterday & he agreed that Pep's selection might have been in part to do with match fitness, but he thought it was more to do with giving a chance to those who played during pre-season to prove themselves, which is more than fair.

Now whether this was the match to do so is another matter, however when it was becoming abundantly clear that Mendy was struggling badly, Mahrez was fading & Sterling was becoming less & less effective, changes should have been made earlier.

Are you seriously suggesting KDB & Zin only had 15 minutes in them, & couldn't have been introduced on 55-60 minutes in when it was obvious we were struggling to change the direction the match was going in?

It doesn't take a medical expert to see what was happening yesterday & what needed to happen to change the course of the match. It's funny how I could see how predictably this match was panning out, but our "Medical Experts" (whoever they were on the day), couldn't.

As I said earlier, when you need to start worrying is when Guardiola & his team are deemed above criticism & are perceived to be incapable of doing wrong as you're curiously suggesting if I'm not mistaken. :-|

 

[Dribble]

These threads are the route to madness mate. Duck out, let them talk ill-informed shit to each other about playing strongest teams and respecting the badge and putting effort in and all that other fan nonsense.

It's always worth coming back to the threads at the end of the season just to shine a light on the worst. The ignoramus you're in "debate" with here has form.

And there's no bigger ignoramus than the one calling others an ignoramus.

Now we agreed to stay away from each other after your failed, laughable football analysis regarding your Audrey Roberts lookalike love interest.

That alone proves the sum total of your football knowledge, so please do us all a favour & do one you brain dead plank. History proved those who knew what they were talking about, as opposed to who talked & continues to talk out of their arses. :-|

 

[nellyonthewing]

Hands up if after 30 minutes yesterday you didn't think we will probably lose this to their first pot at goal.

 

[FromPollockToSilva]

This is how I feel like we set up yesterday with the ball. Mendy, Grealish and Sterling all on top of each other. Gündy isolated in midfield when we had the ball, Fernandinho isolated when we lost the ball. Big gap behind Fernandinho to the central defenders, especially Aké who seems less comfortable defending on the front foot than our other three centre backs.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

And there's no bigger ignoramus than the one calling others an ignoramus.

Now we agreed to stay away from each other after your failed, laughable football analysis regarding your Audrey Roberts lookalike love interest.

That alone proves the sum total of your football knowledge, so please do us all a favour & do one you brain dead plank. History proved those who knew what they were talking about, as opposed who talked & continue to talk out of their arses. :-|

You what?

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Love it when the contrarians turn up.

 

[Nellies left peg]

And there's no bigger ignoramus than the one calling others an ignoramus.

Now we agreed to stay away from each other after your failed, laughable football analysis regarding your Audrey Roberts lookalike love interest.

That alone proves the sum total of your football knowledge, so please do us all a favour & do one you brain dead plank. History proved those who knew what they were talking about, as opposed who talked & continue to talk out of their arses. :-|

Ouch! Bit harsh mate

 

[TFC]

Tried to steer clear of the press waffle after yesterday but I'm fucking gobsmacked to read about Tananga's 'dominant' display.

Just for clarity, being dominant these days is being given carte blanche to kick fuck out of the opponent with no repercussions. Embarrassing punditry.

 

[Fordyboy46]

Tried to steer clear of the press waffle after yesterday but I'm fucking gobsmacked to read about Tananga's 'dominant' display.

Just for clarity, being dominant these days is being given carte blanche to kick fuck out of the opponent with no repercussions. Embarrassing punditry.

That was absolutely appalling referreing from Taylor, giving him licence to commit foul after foul, then having a word the 4th time, disgraceful. Then needless to say, Grealish booked for his first foul, unbelievably biased shite