You should coach Ruben Dias . Who lets it bounce every time
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He's well ahead of the Spurs winger after Stones has slipped. He really doesn't bust a gut to get back until after the winger has passed him. Not sure how to post images but these 2 from the Lewis performance thread highlight it:
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Watched the game! Point is if your tactics is the ofside trap all the back line is looking to push up just as that long ball was plays your not thinking or looking at the runner your looking at the player who could play that ball down the line so you can out up! Now if the ball one was instructed to watch runner go with runners and they are dozy fuckers I would call him out!
Lovebitesandeveryfing
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That second goal. You can say what you like about Ed. I don't remember him ever, not once, being caught out like that. It's not so much that he doesn't ever pick out a player with another opposition player close to him (and marking him). He doesn't telegraph it like that. And his pass is on the far side of the City player, not the near side to the marking player.
Let's bear with James Trafford. We've seen, over and over again, that playing out from the back is not an easy thing. You don't just improvise it. Other teams have adopted it, and often messed it up. Not least against us. Haaland has nicked a number of goals like that. Trafford has to learn. And learn fairly quickly.
Let's bear with James Trafford. We've seen, over and over again, that playing out from the back is not an easy thing. You don't just improvise it. Other teams have adopted it, and often messed it up. Not least against us. Haaland has nicked a number of goals like that. Trafford has to learn. And learn fairly quickly.
Exactly hence my post I wasn’t joking when I told my lad I’m in a good mind to rock up to the next training session to explain this to Pep and Kolo ffsYou should coach Ruben Dias . Who lets it bounce every time
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PragueBlue
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Once the offside trap has been broken though, you have to be aware of your man and cover his run. Lewis unfortunately didn't do that. It's not the first time either. It's an area of his game that he needs to work on, especially as he isn't blessed with a great deal of pace. Walker could often get away with similar due to his speed. Lewis unfortunately doesn't have that luxury.Watched the game! Point is if your tactics is the ofside trap all the back line is looking to push up just as that long ball was plays your not thinking or looking at the runner your looking at the player who could play that ball down the line so you can out up! Now if the ball one was instructed to watch runner go with runners and they are dozy fuckers I would call him out!
Blue Til Death
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It wasnt just the standard of our play that saddened me, our players didn’t win any 50/50, kept slipping over and worst of all, they were completely out muscled by the Spuds..
Media blackout ensues …
Media blackout ensues …
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Rory Bluelow
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Early season games are always unpredictable, so we will have wait a bit longer to see where we really are this season. After a bright start, our passing started to fall apart and Spurs looked faster and much stronger physically than our lads - who began to wilt and make unforced mistakes. They won almost every 50/50, were strong in the tackle, pressed really well and the ref allowed them lots of physical contact. Most worrying was our second half display where we looked lost. First goal was poor and the second a disaster - but at least Traff made some decent saves. Spurs were good and grew in confidence, but we made it easy for them.
The rags will try to play a similar style and I hope we’re ready for the cunts.
Sort it out Pep.
The rags will try to play a similar style and I hope we’re ready for the cunts.
Sort it out Pep.
bobbyowenquiff
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Nico and Cherki may be younger than Gundo and Bernie but they are not faster. Our midfield and back four are still being outpaced virtually every week. The team shape needs radical change. Perhaps going to a 5-3-2 with Haaland upfront and Marmoush/Foden just behind him. Marmoush will never be a winger. The inverted full backs can't work if the players can't get back quick enough.Pep did many things fans wanted: Trafford over Ederson, no uncs in midfield with Gonzales and Cherki starting instead of Gundo and Bernardo, Marmoush over Doku, and so on.
Youngest City line-up in the PL since 2010!
Performance wasn't good enough for some objective reasons.
Spurs started their pre-season 2-3 weeks earlier and are fitter, better prepared than us.
We have many new players: they need time to gel.
The uncs weren't as bad as it was often assumed: the main reason for our problems last season were the many injuries, not Gundo's, Bernardo's or Kevin's legs. All of those 3 can run more than Cherki, and maybe Gonzalez as well. Cherki and Gonzalez will need time to reach the required fitness levels.
Also, we could do without the mistakes for their goals.
Rebuilding takes time. Might be another transition season. I expected a slow start and significant improvement come November and December. We are likely to be much better in 2-3 months.
Possible mistakes by Pep/the club: going into the season with 2 injury prone CBs, both on the wrong side of 30, and relying on Rico to start games at RB.
Rebuilding means inconsistency is inevitable. Let's hope Rodri stays fit, he can make us more consistent and hard to beat.
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Just thought the balance was all wrong. Cherki shouldn't be picking up balls in the corners in our own half. It ended up with us getting overran in the middle.
Reijnders had somebody else's feet on and Nico lacks composure and touch to be 100% precise in there.
Spurs pressing made every player uneasy and from the very start, we were a yard off with our passes always putting the receiving player on the back foot. Very reminiscent of last season at times when we just didn't treat the ball well enough.
A lot of work for Pep to do. We are just too slow to play such a high line and the goalkeeper is not able to sweep as well as Ederson and that is a bigger issue for me than hos ability on the ball.
A word on the pitch too....It looked immaculate but we really should have trained on it this week to get used to the difference between that and those at the academy. With it being a laid pitch and not grown, there will be a difference in feel underfoot for the first few weeks until it really beds in. I think that contributed to the players slipping early on.
Reijnders had somebody else's feet on and Nico lacks composure and touch to be 100% precise in there.
Spurs pressing made every player uneasy and from the very start, we were a yard off with our passes always putting the receiving player on the back foot. Very reminiscent of last season at times when we just didn't treat the ball well enough.
A lot of work for Pep to do. We are just too slow to play such a high line and the goalkeeper is not able to sweep as well as Ederson and that is a bigger issue for me than hos ability on the ball.
A word on the pitch too....It looked immaculate but we really should have trained on it this week to get used to the difference between that and those at the academy. With it being a laid pitch and not grown, there will be a difference in feel underfoot for the first few weeks until it really beds in. I think that contributed to the players slipping early on.
Eccles Blue
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Well, to add insult to injury as they say, I’ve just switched the TV on as MOTD was showing the second goal!!! I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. (Just kidding I did a Phil Foden and laughed) :-)
I’ve decided I do NOT like that pink goalkeeper jersey. It looked strange in the line up before the game and I hate it now! ;-)
I’ve decided I do NOT like that pink goalkeeper jersey. It looked strange in the line up before the game and I hate it now! ;-)
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I don't believe that most other teams have great defensive players and we don't. The issue is as great as Pep is he hasn't found a way of playing his attacking game without leaving the back door open. He needs to accept that the way the game is played today his game plan needs updating.Outplayed by Spurs at home, again. Not going to slag off any individual players, collectively from back to front that was shite.
Said to my lad at HT why the fuck are they watering only the half we are now going to defendJust thought the balance was all wrong. Cherki shouldn't be picking up balls in the corners in our own half. It ended up with us getting overran in the middle.
Reijnders had somebody else's feet on and Nico lacks composure and touch to be 100% precise in there.
Spurs pressing made every player uneasy and from the very start, we were a yard off with our passes always putting the receiving player on the back foot. Very reminiscent of last season at times when we just didn't treat the ball well enough.
A lot of work for Pep to do. We are just too slow to play such a high line and the goalkeeper is not able to sweep as well as Ederson and that is a bigger issue for me than hos ability on the ball.
A word on the pitch too....It looked immaculate but we really should have trained on it this week to get used to the difference between that and those at the academy. With it being a laid pitch and not grown, there will be a difference in feel underfoot for the first few weeks until it really beds in. I think that contributed to the players slipping early on.
Slipping for fun in the first half trying to defend the North Stand
Some really strange decisions go on throughout our club at all levels
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Spurs looked as though they'd had a good pre-season and plenty of time, both physically and mentally to prepare themselves for this particular fixture, whereas City had been farting around making friends and money overseas, and just assuming that we'd be up to speed by mid September when the CL fixtures kick-in
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A big concern for me is that at 2-0 down, other than a brief period at the start of the second half we didn't make them sweat at all. It was really comfortable. All very flat.
Hopefully just the fact we are trying to get up to speed still, but we have tough games coming thick and fast so can't afford to be that far off it again.
Hopefully just the fact we are trying to get up to speed still, but we have tough games coming thick and fast so can't afford to be that far off it again.
Nico and Cherki may be younger than Gundo and Bernie but they are not faster. Our midfield and back four are still being outpaced virtually every week. The team shape needs radical change. Perhaps going to a 5-3-2 with Haaland upfront and Marmoush/Foden just behind him. Marmoush will never be a winger. The inverted full backs can't work if the players can't get back quick enough.
Rodri looked terribly slow to many of our fans. As you know, there's a lot more to football than pace. Pace is less important in midfield than technique, intelligence, stamina...
There's room for tactical experiments. In the Treble season, Pep found the solution in February...But we had enough quality and chemistry before that to stay in the PL race. Now there are a lot more moving parts, the space of tactical possibilities is much bigger, with many trade-offs. For example, starting Cherki has its upsides and downsides. The same with Rico or Nunes.
Again, the key is whether and how soon Rodri can start and control games. The things he can give us are very simple and sometimes hard to notice, but they change the game: how we move the ball from defence to attack, how confident and calm we are on the ball, how the rhythm makes the whole greater than the parts, and so on. Let's hope he can regain form. The most influential player we have had under Pep. But if he struggles, fans will turn against him as well. Patience is almost non-existent these days...
Once the offside trap has been broken though, you have to be aware of your man and cover his run. Lewis unfortunately didn't do that. It's not the first time either. It's an area of his game that he needs to work on, especially as he isn't blessed with a great deal of pace. Walker could often get away with similar due to his speed. Lewis unfortunately doesn't have that luxury.
Yeah but wasn’t just him the team didn’t watch there man! I’d have Dias and stones as two of the main problems for our goals before Lewis! Dias passing to Trafford like he did when he saw spurs press was a pass the buck pass! Dias is trash has been for 18 months or more!
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Yep can always tell when City are not on it when they get a half promising situation and self destruct it as happened in the first half. Was concerning how we had no answers.We should have been a couple up before they scored.
Once Spurs took the lead we never looked like scoring, the team just disintergrated.
Very worrying how poor we were in that second half.
On the plus side thought Rodri made the game look easy when he came on so just shows how you can't beat class no matter the tactics you're up against.
The balance of the team selection or how we played? There was plenty of optimism pre match with the selection along with some confident predictions. It was a poor show from us and Spurs were better at some of the basics.Just thought the balance was all wrong. Cherki shouldn't be picking up balls in the corners in our own half. It ended up with us getting overran in the middle.
Reijnders had somebody else's feet on and Nico lacks composure and touch to be 100% precise in there.
Spurs pressing made every player uneasy and from the very start, we were a yard off with our passes always putting the receiving player on the back foot. Very reminiscent of last season at times when we just didn't treat the ball well enough.
A lot of work for Pep to do. We are just too slow to play such a high line and the goalkeeper is not able to sweep as well as Ederson and that is a bigger issue for me than hos ability on the ball.
A word on the pitch too....It looked immaculate but we really should have trained on it this week to get used to the difference between that and those at the academy. With it being a laid pitch and not grown, there will be a difference in feel underfoot for the first few weeks until it really beds in. I think that contributed to the players slipping early on.
Still flat as fuck after yesterday’s performance and result. Three things stand out …….
1 We don’t look fit
2 We need a top class right back
3 Goal Keeper situation needs sorting out
1 we had no pre season so of course we don’t look up to speed, 2 yep we need a fast right back! 3 it’s only 2 games in and Ederson did the exact same thing and cost us but looks like we getting Donno so Trafford will get the cup games and get more experience