Spurs (H) Post Match Thread

By the way, is this handball?

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At the very least should the VAR system not show the infringement upon which whatever bent decision is to be based?

If that is hand ball why was the goal that knocked us out of the champions league allowed to stand? VAR is supposed to be indisputable evidence not open to interpretation on what ever the ref feels like giving.

The extension of the match officials to influence a result has gone even further with some random person in a room giving the ref a chance to chalk off goals. 2 weekends into the season and the big talking points are perfectly legitimate goals not being aloud for City and the ref not even bothered to look at a penalty decision.

Pep will have to take the players up one level more now in how they play training them to score goals that can no way be disallowed.
 
Did the ball even change direction after it brushed the hair on Laporte’s arm?

In what possible way has the ball brushing past Laporte’s arm hair given us an advantage to the point where they feel the goal should be disallowed?

His arm couldn’t have been any closer to his side, and he tried to head it. How can anyone with any footballing brain think that this should be disallowed.

Somebody needs to call the police because we’ve been robbed ffs

This has ruined my weekend. The one thing I look forward to all week is watching City, and this bullshit has effected me way more than it should. Piss off VAR.
 
30 shots to 3 and it ended 2-2, this is where we should be focusing our minds on

Correct thought we were fantastic apart from in front of goal where we were wasteful.

Var is here to stay so we should concentrate on making sure we take the majority of our opportunities and thats what Pep will do.
 
Just settling down to watch match of the day, couldn’t stomach it last night.
We were well & truly shafted..... why have VAR not awarded the pen on Rodri?
How have they decided it was Laporte & not Skipp who handled????

I thought our performance was excellent, our finishing not so much.
Otamendi Rodri KDB Gundagon all fantastic.
We are levels above spurs who are seen as one of our rivals.

Interested to see the media’s reaction when VAR goes against the 2 media supported clubs.

Onto Bournemouth now to go on another incredible winning run.
 
Yet again Spurs provide to be our nemesis, I knew they'd grab a couple of goals, even more so when I saw that Stones wasn't playing. I'm afraid that Otamendi isn't the answer anymore, shouldn't be in the starting eleven but our failure to sign a Kompany replacement has led to this problem.
Oh well on to the Vitality stadium where it's Bournemouth and the Var team v Manchester City, can't wait.
Ottamendi was outstanding yesterday. They’ve beaten us once in 5 games.
 
In my opinion, that was the best performance we did under Pep. It was worth every mile driven from and back to London to see how we played yesterday. I've never seen that kind of the whole team high-pitch defending that limited Spurs possession in their own third of the pitch. Even Atletico Madrid from a few years ago didn't manage doing it for all 90 minutes. And we did yesterday. Ruined only by some catastrophic profligacy and cavalier VAR/refeering.

Well said SB. Total domination of a club that supposedly will challenge for the title. Should have been way out of sight by half time. Hopefully in future games we will remember this.
 
How come Spurs can come to our place and score seemingly unlimited numbers of goals yet when they go to the Scouse shitpit, they're beaten before kick off and don't even bother trying to play the game in the opposition half.
 
We really did batter Spurs but particularly De Bruyne and Sterling were guilty of moments of greed when better options were available
Has there been an explanation yet as to why VAR was not used for the Rodri incident and if it’s used to spot the handball why not for the pull on Laporte which probably contributed to the handball.
De Bruynes fitness is a concern....in the big games he’s pretty much done after 60 mins and although Aguero took his goal really well I think Jesus gives us more up front with his movement.
I thought Otamendi had really good game.......not really sure sure who was to blame for the goals we conceded.
 
Would the goal had been disallowed if the score had been say 2nil for either side,I doubt it.
 
City - Chelsea 6:0, xG 4.04 - 0.90 = 3.14

City - Spurs 2:2, xG 3.23 - 0.11 (!) = 3.12 (+ two pen non-calls!)

Basically, the game yesterday could have easily been another trashing. Just not our day yesterday. Football can be like that sometimes. We were blody fantastic though, apart from finishing our chances, that is. Wouldn't be surprised if the pendulum swings in the other direction and we smash the rags or the dippers. The latter are enjoying it now, let's make them cry by winning another PL title.
 
Aside from the pen shouts, that decision to award a free kick AGAINST Bernardo after he schooled the entirety of Spurs' team was one of the worst decisions Oliver has ever made

Hate defending Oliver (the bent bastard) but it was actually given by the linesman. How he saw a foul there is anybody's guess. The standard of the officials is disgraceful. I recorded the game so watched it again, it was brilliant skill by Bernie and then he gets sandwiched. The men in black don't even hide their stupidity anymore.
 
On a seperate note I moved into the east stand for this season and could not believe the amount of tourists there, especially at the front. Completely different from not even a few years ago

Sat next to a bloke yesterday who had travelled from Malaysia,he was so excited to be there had a great time loved every minute of it and never stopped chatting about City prefer him to some of the miserable moaning bastards sat around me
 
Think you are spot on with your analysis of the game. We missed good chances and gave away two very poor goals. On another day that could have been 5-2. And, yes, VAR is in danger of throttling all joy out of the game.
I would add, though, that I thought our second half performance - from the 65th or so minute - was pretty lacklustre: we did not move the ball quickly enough or establish a tempo and made it easy for a resilient Spurs defence. A number of players looked a bit leggy in the last quarter of the game, perhaps understandable at this stage of the season. I also felt that Sterling, Bernado and even Kev faded badly in the second half, seemingly running out of ideas, and Sterling, in particular, was guilty of trying to do too much, of hanging on to the ball too long and sometimes trying to score himself instead of playing better placed team mates in. A very frustrating game and result but after such a run of wins in the Premiership something was going to give eventually - and Spurs and Pochettino are no mugs!

Have to agree. A lot of our players seem unfit and it’s showing in the second half. I actually thought aguero looked shattered all game. Pre season was a bit of wasted time. I think in 2 more games we will be flying
 
There will be a time this season where the Dippers will get a penalty because 'there was contact', and City won't get a penalty because 'there wasn't enough contact'.

There will still be an anonymous referee making a decision, and it will still be subjective, and there will still be no recompense for an incorrect decision, and we will still get shafted and it will still be corrupt.

Fuly agree with the first bit - that has always happened....some players are very very good at conning the refs.....

Im not arguing whether there is corruption/favouritism by ref's......Some people belive there is some dont

What I am talking against is that by the rules of VAR unless it deems the ref has completely misse something it aint going to over turn a ref's decision. Yesterday with the Rodri incident, even though the whole t viewing audience including fans, pundits etc thought it was a penalty (as I did even without a replay) VAR didnt overr rule the ref probably becauase it deemed he saw the incident and therefore there was no reason to question it
 
How would do you equate Rodri's challenge on Lanzini being checked by VAR and Rodri being fouled by Lamela then?

It said on the commentary that the lanzini one had been checked/would be checked and it wasnt given.....

I belive the ref was indicating that the rodri one by lamela had been checked andwhen he was shaking his head he was saying that they (VAR) had said no foul......others have interpited that differently and im guessing no one knows....

It would be interesting to know whether it was checked by VAR (the rodri one)

I guess the way forward is that VAR should check all potential penalty incidents (the game can carry on flowing until that is done and then is pulled back if needed)
 
My view is that we should have had a stonewall penalty but the goal was correctly ruled out due to handball under the new interpretation.

However neither decision should have had anything other than the annoyance factor as we should have been several goals clear of Spurs.
 
Fuly agree with the first bit - that has always happened....some players are very very good at conning the refs.....

Im not arguing whether there is corruption/favouritism by ref's......Some people belive there is some dont

VAR didnt overr rule the ref probably becauase it deemed he saw the incident and therefore there was no reason to question it

The thing is, the decisions when to use and how to interpret VAR are not made by an "it". VAR doesn't over-rule anything or anyone. It is inanimate and just a tool being manipulated by sn unaccountable individual.
 

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