Spurs (H) - Post-Match Thread

Having watched the highlights, it like surprised the team that Son and Kane can be dangerous if given the space and time. I wonder if we worked on this from basically any previous Spurs game because it keeps biting us in the Arse, especially Son being able to do his magic almost every City game.

Him making that run early on against our pushed up defence is criminal. ad then he was able to give huge key passes to Kane after that too.

I do wonder if we work on defending bit on Son specifically before Spurs games. IF we do and he keeps putting in these performances we just need to prepare much better I guess.
 
Keeper! said:
Agreed, the rags game worries me, they will be up for it, their players putting up a performance to hide the shambles that has been their season.

It's going to be an incredible couple of months, get the popcorn ready.
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I've been saying for weeks, this has echoes of 2013 for me but we are in uniteds position and the dippers are in ours
 
Damanino said:
Having watched the highlights, it like surprised the team that Son and Kane can be dangerous if given the space and time. I wonder if we worked on this from basically any previous Spurs game because it keeps biting us in the Arse, especially Son being able to do his magic almost every City game.

Him making that run early on against our pushed up defence is criminal. ad then he was able to give huge key passes to Kane after that too.

I do wonder if we work on defending bit on Son specifically before Spurs games. IF we do and he keeps putting in these performances we just need to prepare much better I guess.
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The best way to deal with Son is to sign him.
 
Conte had a very effective game plan. They frustrated us and broke up our rhythm by going down feigning injury every few minutes for lengthy spells. This allowed them to recover both energy and shape and reduce playing time.
This makes for a frustrating watch - if the ref called the trainer on it would stop this tactic as the ‘injured’ player would have to leave the field. Our captain needs to be in the refs ear and maybe Pep should mention it too.
Of course, an easier way to stop this tactic is to take the lead - something which we normally do.
Overall, a bad day at the office and it puts pressure on the next game. Time for a Pep masterclass.
 
game on as they say, liverpool have the harder games to come(on paper) not by much though

gave the ball away too readily last night, cancelo especially
 
People's opinions and comments are heavily influenced by the final result.

Truth is that we din't play worse in attack than vs Sporting, but we were extremely clinical vs Sporting (and very lucky), whereas we were less lucky with our shots vs Spurs. Both Gundogan and Cancelo were close to scoring worldlies several times last night. Those shots would have been goals vs Sporting.

Defending was poor, but Spurs were extremely clinical with their final passes like we were with our finishing in Lisbon. That's football, such things happen. But in their comments many people don't take into account the role of luck, the probabalistic nature of the game, the urge is to explain the loss in terms of the weaknesses of some players or the manager or the team as a whole.

In 9 out of 10 times we don't lose that game. Last night was the 1/10 outcome. But note Liverpool had such games as well, their loss vs Leicester was shocking, as were surprising their draws vs Brentford and Brighton. Things like that happen and will happen till the end of the season. This isn't a repeat of the 18/19 league season, the latter was one off.
 
Having had time to stew and reflect, we're still in a decent position all things considered. Top of the league with a quarter of the season remaining is decent.

But given the position we were in a few weeks ago it's not great. We were flying, the league was settled according to a naive few but I remember posting back then it was far from done, and so it's come to pass. The Southampton and Spurs results have left us looking nervously over our shoulder and we need to shift once more into top gear before it's too late.

A few observations on the match - first and foremost, as has been repeated ad infinitum, a lack of a proper centre forward is hurting us. Kane toyed with us for the majority of the game. Irrespective of his individual stats this season, he's the type of player we're missing and if we persist with this "false 9" bullshit next season I'll tear my hair out. False 9 is given the term because it is exactly that, false. It's lunacy that as a club we seem content to hamstring ourselves in this position, just please God do what it takes to bring Little Alf to the club. Our football has to be tantamount to perfection most of the time because we don't have a 35+ goals player in the team, it makes things unnecessarily difficult for us. Alvarez could be the answer, let's wait and see.

- The whole defence were poor but Walker in particular was unspeakably bad. He'll need to learn to adapt his game as a player because once he loses his pace, his frailties will be all the more exposed.

- Mentally we're very fragile. We're an exceptional football team, that is, we play beautiful football and pass teams to death. But when the pressure gets turned on just a little we seem to wilt. As soon as Spurs scored their first yesterday the tone was set. When things aren't going all our own way we struggle and that's something Pep needs to address; quickly.

We're still in a charmed position, three points clear (yes I'm calling it three and not six) in the league and comfortably on our way to the quarters in the CL is fabulous all things considered. Pep will get the lads in next week and get their heads back in the game, at least he needs to, because the League and CL double is a dream that can very much be realised this season. CTID.
 
alexmcity said:
People's opinions and comments are heavily influenced by the final result.

Truth is that we din't play worse in attack than vs Sporting, but we were extremely clinical vs Sporting (and very lucky), whereas we were less lucky with our shots vs Spurs. Both Gundogan and Cancelo were close to scoring worldlies several times last night. Those shots would have been goals vs Sporting.

Defending was poor, but Spurs were extremely clinical with their final passes like we were with our finishing in Lisbon. That's football, such things happen. But in their comments many people don't take into account the role of luck, the probabalistic nature of the game, the urge is to explain the loss in terms of the weaknesses of some players or the manager or the team as a whole.

In 9 out of 10 times we don't lose that game. Last night was the 1/10 outcome. But note Liverpool had such games as well, their loss vs Leicester was shocking, as were surprising their draws vs Brentford and Brighton. Things like that happen and will happen till the end of the season. This isn't a repeat of the 18/19 league season, the latter was one off.
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I don't agree with you, we were slow and gave the ball away way too easily.
Terrible performance, lacking urgency.
Thought Mahrez should've replaced ineffective Foden at HT.

Stones Ruben Please Pep
 
I like to write about football, it can be a game of real beauty when played properly, but it can also be a brutal game when anti-football wins the day.

Spurs consider themselves one of the great historic clubs, yet played like a team coached by Big Sam, nothing wrong in that because it worked, yet Spurs traditionalists brought up on the great push and run double winning side of 1961 would surely have been appalled at the catenaccio on show today. Spurs morphed into the Inter side of 1964 when catenaccio was King. They were ugly, they defended deeper than Russian submarines and employed all the dark arts of which Conte is a master of. 7-0-3 worked for them though so they have to be applauded. They dragged us in and mugged us on the counter. They are not the first team to do that but there has to be factors in there favour for it to work.

We had an off day, we lost the control that makes us such a great team and in our desperation they took advantage. We also looked jaded, maybe the midweek in Lisbon took more out of us than we realise, we still had chances but our end product was poor, too many players had poor days and they had there best performance of the season. Defensively they were superb and our usual overloads were nullified.

Football is a strange game, its why many of us love it as results are never cut and dried, on any given day it is possible to lose. Yesterday Kane who barely touched it made his touches count, Son always turns up against up and because we are Champions teams always give a little extra against us.

We are still in the driving seat, hopefully yesterday was a bump in the road and we regroup and go again. Its our title to lose and as much as the media big up Kane, he will not be winning a PL title. We may not win the PL title of course and the home game against Liverpool is now looking like a decider.

I fucking hate Spurs, i have since 1981, the cunts.
 
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