Spurs thread 2019/20

[bobmcfc]

Anyone know what was said to dier ? Surely it was recorded/ caught on camera ?

anyway he probably deserved it

 

[PragueBlue]

Anyone know what was said to dier ? Surely it was recorded/ caught on camera ?

anyway he probably deserved it

From what Mourinho said it was more something that a fan said about Dier that his brother took exception to and got into an altercation with the fan who said it. Dier then waded in to back his brother up.

 

[JimB]

What's the "word on the street" with this Dier thing, Crouchy, Jim B ?

The trouble was in a corporate area just behind the dugouts. One fan (or corporate customer) shouted abuse at Dier - which itself was odd, since Dier had an excellent game at CB and scored the first penalty very well. Dier's brother was near to this "fan" and objected to what had been said. A bit of a scuffle followed and it was then that Dier himself got involved. He wasn't reacting to the abuse he received (that'll just be water off a duck's back). He was coming to his brother's defence. Probably still shouldn't have done it, I guess, but understandable and far more forgivable.

 

[George Hannah]

The trouble was in a corporate area just behind the dugouts. One fan (or corporate customer) shouted abuse at Dier - which itself was odd, since Dier had an excellent game at CB and scored the first penalty very well. Dier's brother was near to this "fan" and objected to what had been said. A bit of a scuffle followed and it was then that Dier himself got involved. He wasn't reacting to the abuse he received (that'll just be water off a duck's back). He was coming to his brother's defence. Probably still shouldn't have done it, I guess, but understandable and far more forgivable.

up the Spurs then :)

 

[aguero93:20]

fuck Spurs then

 

[George Hannah]

I never did

 

[PragueBlue]

The trouble was in a corporate area just behind the dugouts. One fan (or corporate customer) shouted abuse at Dier - which itself was odd, since Dier had an excellent game at CB and scored the first penalty very well. Dier's brother was near to this "fan" and objected to what had been said. A bit of a scuffle followed and it was then that Dier himself got involved. He wasn't reacting to the abuse he received (that'll just be water off a duck's back). He was coming to his brother's defence. Probably still shouldn't have done it, I guess, but understandable and far more forgivable.

Stupid of Dier's brother. If he can't take fans expressing their views about his brother, he probably shouldn't be going to games. Dier himself shouldn't have got involved.

 

[Mr Blue Moon]

The trouble was in a corporate area just behind the dugouts. One fan (or corporate customer) shouted abuse at Dier - which itself was odd, since Dier had an excellent game at CB and scored the first penalty very well. Dier's brother was near to this "fan" and objected to what had been said. A bit of a scuffle followed and it was then that Dier himself got involved. He wasn't reacting to the abuse he received (that'll just be water off a duck's back). He was coming to his brother's defence. Probably still shouldn't have done it, I guess, but understandable and far more forgivable.

We all know what Delia is like when she’s spent a night on the sauce

 

[JimB]

Stupid of Dier's brother. If he can't take fans expressing their views about his brother, he probably shouldn't be going to games. Dier himself shouldn't have got involved.

We don't know what the abuse was, what Dier's brother said in return, or who kicked off the aggro first.

There's nothing wrong with Dier's brother objecting to abuse, depending on how he did so. And, if the "fan" was the one to attack his brother, Dier was justified in coming to his brother's defence. In fact, that constitutes self defence.

But, as I say, we don't know exactly what was said or done or how it all unfolded. So best to hang fire until the facts are established.

 

[Dirty Harry]

The trouble was in a corporate area just behind the dugouts. One fan (or corporate customer) shouted abuse at Dier - which itself was odd, since Dier had an excellent game at CB and scored the first penalty very well. Dier's brother was near to this "fan" and objected to what had been said. A bit of a scuffle followed and it was then that Dier himself got involved. He wasn't reacting to the abuse he received (that'll just be water off a duck's back). He was coming to his brother's defence. Probably still shouldn't have done it, I guess, but understandable and far more forgivable.

Cheers Jim, personally, I don't have a problem with that at all, people will say as a footballer, he's a role model etc etc, and should set an example, but for me, fundamentally, he's a human being, which brings it's own responsibilities, one of which being you protect and stand by your family, ergo he may not have acted correctly as a footballer, but he has as a decent human being in my book.

 

[aguero93:20]

So best to hang fire until the facts are established.

I've taken all this into account and am going to vote for hanging him.

 

[JimB]

Cheers Jim, personally, I don't have a problem with that at all, people will say as a footballer, he's a role model etc etc, and should set an example, but for me, fundamentally, he's a human being, which brings it's own responsibilities, one of which being you protect and stand by your family, ergo he may not have acted correctly as a footballer, but he has as a decent human being in my book.

Agreed.

He'll probably get a ban. And maybe that's fair enough. The FA can't allow the precedent to be set, no matter the justification.

But it's nothing like the Cantona incident. So up to 5 games would be about right.

 

[JimB]

I've taken all this into account and am going to vote for hanging him.

What about the fire, though? Could have voted for burning him at the stake.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Agreed.

He'll probably get a ban. And maybe that's fair enough. The FA can't allow the precedent to be set, no matter the justification.

But it's nothing like the Cantona incident. So up to 5 games would be about right.

Probably mate, but an awkward sod like me would probably go to the European court of human rights to dispute it, think his rights under that would trump FA rules, not sure if there's an actual offence under traditional law that says a footballer can't go into the crowd ?

 

[JimB]

Probably mate, but an awkward sod like me would probably go to the European court of human rights to dispute it, think his rights under that would trump FA rules, not sure if there's an actual offence under traditional law that says a footballer can't go into the crowd ?

Well, if you wouldn't mind doing that on Eric's behalf, he and Spurs would be most grateful. Free pint of Neck Oil and a sausage roll on your next visit. Plus a £4.99 voucher for the club shop, redeemable when you spend over £60.

 

[aguero93:20]

What about the fire, though? Could have voted for burning him at the stake.

God no, the smell would be horrific.

 

[crazyg]

We don't know what the abuse was, what Dier's brother said in return, or who kicked off the aggro first.

There's nothing wrong with Dier's brother objecting to abuse, depending on how he did so. And, if the "fan" was the one to attack his brother, Dier was justified in coming to his brother's defence. In fact, that constitutes self defence.

But, as I say, we don't know exactly what was said or done or how it all unfolded. So best to hang fire until the facts are established.

They have their standards in hospitality at Tottenham, but won't raise them for anybody. Moral of the story: stay with the plebs - it's safer!

 

[blueinsa]

We don't know what the abuse was, what Dier's brother said in return, or who kicked off the aggro first.

There's nothing wrong with Dier's brother objecting to abuse, depending on how he did so. And, if the "fan" was the one to attack his brother, Dier was justified in coming to his brother's defence. In fact, that constitutes self defence.

But, as I say, we don't know exactly what was said or done or how it all unfolded. So best to hang fire until the facts are established.

There is no and never will be justification for a player diving into the crowd for a scrap mate.

 

[BlueAnorak]

The Special One has made Tottingham special!

 

[manclad]

We don't know what the abuse was, what Dier's brother said in return, or who kicked off the aggro first.

There's nothing wrong with Dier's brother objecting to abuse, depending on how he did so. And, if the "fan" was the one to attack his brother, Dier was justified in coming to his brother's defence. In fact, that constitutes self defence.

But, as I say, we don't know exactly what was said or done or how it all unfolded. So best to hang fire until the facts are established.

Absolutely no chance of Dier acting in "self defence" if he is attacking a single fan having an altercation with his brother. As soon as he gets involved it means it is 2(brothers) vs 1 and that is not self defence. If he went to the aid of his brother in a street brawl and ended up punching the other guy,he would be arrested and up before the beak quicker than you could say "Spurs are gonna win fu*k all again this year".