Spurs thread 2020/21

Pointless club.

They can’t win the title and they can’t get relegated. Last cup 2008. Always good for a chuckle around November but otherwise non existent as a football club.
I'd never say that about any club. All clubs go through good and bad patches and sometimes those patches are very long. We, more than many fans, can attest to that.

A bit of banter is fine but remember that, by and large, the fans of all clubs are just like us (as the last week has demonstrated to an extent). All they want is to watch football and hope that their club plays good football and does well. There are a few d*cks amongst them, but then there are a few d*cks in our fanbase as well (and who hasn't seen them on matchday?).
 
I'd never say that about any club. All clubs go through good and bad patches and sometimes those patches are very long. We, more than many fans, can attest to that.

A bit of banter is fine but remember that, by and large, the fans of all clubs are just like us (as the last week has demonstrated to an extent). All they want is to watch football and hope that their club plays good football and does well. There are a few d*cks amongst them, but then there are a few d*cks in our fanbase as well (and who hasn't seen them on matchday?).
What you say is true, but aside from the fact that football support is tribal and thus most fans have that 'us against the world' attitude, on an individual basis we also all have reasons to dislike certain clubs more than others. As a football club I have no particular axe to grind against Spurs, but they have always been amongst the most vociferous in the condemnation of us since the Sheikh turned up. Levy has a pathological hatred of us because we have money, and a significant portion of their supporters have been calling us a 'plastic club' and a 'sell-out' for as long as I can remember.

I'm okay in saying that many fans of other clubs are the same as us, but let's not forget also that many of them are not.
 
What you say is true, but aside from the fact that football support is tribal and thus most fans have that 'us against the world' attitude, on an individual basis we also all have reasons to dislike certain clubs more than others. As a football club I have no particular axe to grind against Spurs, but they have always been amongst the most vociferous in the condemnation of us since the Sheikh turned up. Levy has a pathological hatred of us because we have money, and a significant portion of their supporters have been calling us a 'plastic club' and a 'sell-out' for as long as I can remember.

I'm okay in saying that many fans of other clubs are the same as us, but let's not forget also that many of them are not.
To an extent this boils down to the 'what is a club?' discussion. Is it the players, the manager, the fans, the owners? In reality it is all of these things and you can dislike one part of it without having any particular issue with the rest. This has been brought into sharp relief in the last week and is a strong argument against some types of sanction against the ESL clubs in that the collateral damage against those parts of the club that had no part in the decision (or, in the case of the fans, were actively and loudly against it) makes it a difficult thing to justify.
 
A couple of hours yesterday in a pub garden with loads of Spurs fans reminded me why I don’t like them. Blokes in their 50s dressed like the cast of the Football Factory, trying to look moody and telling each other endless stories about doing over this firm or that firm, in loud gravelly voices. They are just desperate to be West Ham or Millwall, but they’re just not. So pleased we beat them.
 
Honestly, plenty of other clubs' fans dislike us (oil money — yawn, water off a duck's back as far as I'm concerned — but I kind of understand it) but believe it, they truly hate us, with a vociferous, deeply felt hatred that puts them up there with the dippers (the rags is a different, more complex case: not all of them hate us, because they're Mancs, too, and because above all there are many, many families that are ‘mixed’ and you can't easily hate your own son, father, sister, brother, mother, etc., even if you regard them as incomprehensibly mistaken and take great delight in giving them grief on derby day if it's gone your way).
I was puzzled by it for a while, but I have a little theory, for what it's worth. They see us as directly having taken their place — the one that was rightfully theirs. The fact that we ‘cheated’ to do it is almost secondary. For a few seasons after the takeover we were jockeying with them for the fourth European spot. They saw Arsenal as being finally on the decline, with the departure of José Chelsea's glorious years were perhaps over, West Ham were never going to do anything as far as Spurs supporters were concerned. Fulham, Palace, Watford etc. were beneath noticing. They felt they were on the up and up as the London club. And then, well… no.
I didn't really have a problem with Spurs until I discovered that they had a problem with me, big time. It's an old club, it's got its traditions, the old White Hart Lane was a fine stadium. But I find I'm constantly getting into run-ins with Spurs fans. Anyway, I've only got so much energy for hatred — hating properly is exhausting, it's a vocation, I've got just about my quota for the dippers and rags — and life is not getting any longer for me. As Elvis Costello says, “let them talk, let them talk, let them all talk.”
 
Never forget that when footy was first televised it was always Spurs this, and Spurs that, and I can understand it all 'cos they had a fuckin' great team and played the game we way we try to play now, but they haven't hit the shitty fan like we did. I think the problem has never been the managers but further up the food chain.
 
1981
Chas 'n Dave
that blue that got stabbed
A few years of fighting with them for top 4
game raising cunts turning up against us out of bitterness and spite

Apart from that, nothing against them. Generally a waste of space in any final.
 

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