Stadium Expansion (Confirmed)

gordondaviesmoustache said:
flipmode said:
Is there a stipulation on the capacity stadium for a UEFA Champions League Final? Just wondering if we do both stands together and a new 61,500 stadium is ready for season 2015/2016 whether we would then look at hosting a Champions League Final in the not too distant future?
Only 30,000 according to this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums</a>

UEFA Elite 5 Star Stadium Ratings
UEFA European Elite Stadium Categories

UEFA Elite Stadiums such as Old Trafford Manchester or Camp Nou Barcelona must be all-seated and have a minimum capacity of 30,000 with at least 22,500 seats under cover, the playing surface must be 105 metres x 68 metres in width and entirely fence-free. Other requirements are in regard to the number of TV Studios, size of dressing room and CCTV inside and outside of the stadium.

We're already eligible. The criteria is elite status, which is the status a stadium must have to host any UEFA competition final. This is the reason we were able to host the UEFA cup final in 2008. They obviously go for the bigger grounds though for good reason so we'd definitely have a better chance with a higher capacity. However, only the Arena aufSchalke used in 2004 would have lower capacity than the expanded Etihad, although the Estádio da Luz being used for this year's final is only a few thousand more.
 
Skashion said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
flipmode said:
Is there a stipulation on the capacity stadium for a UEFA Champions League Final? Just wondering if we do both stands together and a new 61,500 stadium is ready for season 2015/2016 whether we would then look at hosting a Champions League Final in the not too distant future?
Only 30,000 according to this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums</a>

UEFA Elite 5 Star Stadium Ratings
UEFA European Elite Stadium Categories

UEFA Elite Stadiums such as Old Trafford Manchester or Camp Nou Barcelona must be all-seated and have a minimum capacity of 30,000 with at least 22,500 seats under cover, the playing surface must be 105 metres x 68 metres in width and entirely fence-free. Other requirements are in regard to the number of TV Studios, size of dressing room and CCTV inside and outside of the stadium.

We're already eligible. The criteria is elite status, which is the status a stadium must have to host any UEFA competition final. This is the reason we were able to host the UEFA cup final in 2008. They obviously go for the bigger grounds though for good reason so we'd definitely have a better chance with a higher capacity. However, only the Arena aufSchalke used in 2004 would have lower capacity than the expanded Etihad, although the Estádio da Luz being used for this year's final is only a few thousand more.

I do wonder how the Nou Camp gets elite status when most of the place is not under cover?

Double standards perhaps?
 
fbloke said:
Skashion said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Only 30,000 according to this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums</a>

We're already eligible. The criteria is elite status, which is the status a stadium must have to host any UEFA competition final. This is the reason we were able to host the UEFA cup final in 2008. They obviously go for the bigger grounds though for good reason so we'd definitely have a better chance with a higher capacity. However, only the Arena aufSchalke used in 2004 would have lower capacity than the expanded Etihad, although the Estádio da Luz being used for this year's final is only a few thousand more.

I do wonder how the Nou Camp gets elite status when most of the place is not under cover?

Double standards perhaps?

possibly, but the size and the weather may play a part
 
MaineRoadBlue said:
johnmc said:
Why are people questioning how we get kids supporting us?

Don't we have kids tickets for £120? Other than that though, a lot of kids will want to support a team winning things. Nothing breeds support like success. We have a gap as united dominated. That's not the case anymore. It doesn't change overnight though. I'd guess that's far more of a factor than ticket prices.

Because people like you don't appear to understand that a child of 10, even if he could afford or had access to £120, is not allowed to enter the ground by themselves until they are 14.

If they are to come in, then an adult must also buy a Seasoncard at (Lower Tier Family Stand) £450!

Now, just in case it hasn't sunk in, the greater majority of children in East Manchester come from low income homes, of which a good proportion are single parents probably on benefit supported income. In short, the concept of a 10 year old lad convincing his mum/dad to spend £570 so he can watch City for a season is fantasy stuff!

The solution is for the club to offer, a small selection of Pay on the Day seats for 10-14 year olds at £5 a game. The area could be chaperoned by CITC staff and it would offer our club back to the people who now occupy the very soil from which it grew.

£5 a game is sustainable, as it was only 2-3 years ago children in the family stand, who are fortunate enough to have parents who want to attend and can afford to do so actually paid across 19 games for their children's Seasoncards which were £95.

Sorry but your suggestions are fantasy stuff. You expect city to allow 10-14 year olds to rock up on their own and pay in on the door? Look this might have gone on 30 years ago but no club in the country would consider it.

All you can do is make it as cheap as possible for a parent and child to go and we are amongst the cheapest. And look we are selling out so where is the issue, we aren't a charity either.

The tickets are £120 now aren't they? So about £6 a game. To take a kid to the cinema is about the same.
 
squirtyflower said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I wonder if once it's completed, and the third biggest football ground in England behind Wembley and old trafford, whether Perry Groves will still think we're a "medium sized club"? Someone should be sure to ask him.
what a stupid question

we were always and always will be, a small club
Smaller, in fact....
 
MaineRoadBlue said:
johnmc said:
Why are people questioning how we get kids supporting us?

Don't we have kids tickets for £120? Other than that though, a lot of kids will want to support a team winning things. Nothing breeds support like success. We have a gap as united dominated. That's not the case anymore. It doesn't change overnight though. I'd guess that's far more of a factor than ticket prices.

Because people like you don't appear to understand that a child of 10, even if he could afford or had access to £120, is not allowed to enter the ground by themselves until they are 14.

If they are to come in, then an adult must also buy a Seasoncard at (Lower Tier Family Stand) £450!

Now, just in case it hasn't sunk in, the greater majority of children in East Manchester come from low income homes, of which a good proportion are single parents probably on benefit supported income. In short, the concept of a 10 year old lad convincing his mum/dad to spend £570 so he can watch City for a season is fantasy stuff!

The solution is for the club to offer, a small selection of Pay on the Day seats for 10-14 year olds at £5 a game. The area could be chaperoned by CITC staff and it would offer our club back to the people who now occupy the very soil from which it grew.

£5 a game is sustainable, as it was only 2-3 years ago children in the family stand, who are fortunate enough to have parents who want to attend and can afford to do so actually paid across 19 games for their children's Seasoncards which were £95.

Do you honestly believe that for one moment the Club have not thought about this ?? City like every other football club are now a business first and foremost and a sports club second,irrespective of whether we like it or not.
Companies are NOT charitable organisations and City are no different and we were always told from the onset by Khaldoon,that within "x" amount of years the Club could not count on Sheikh Mansours money for ever and a day and we had to become self sufficient.
Unfortunately the powers that be at UEFA decided in their infinite wisdom to try and curtail our spending as well.
Well done to City on trying to provide additional benefits to our supporters.Unfortunately some can not see the wood for the fucking trees !!!
 
flipmode said:
Is there a stipulation on the capacity stadium for a UEFA Champions League Final? Just wondering if we do both stands together and a new 61,500 stadium is ready for season 2015/2016 whether we would then look at hosting a Champions League Final in the not too distant future?

UEFA generally allocate finals on the basis of 50,000 capacity minimum to host a CL Final, 40,000 minimum for a Europa Final.
 

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