Stephen Yaxley-Lennon

Chippy_boy said:
This will be my final comment on this thread—take it as you will, but please don’t respond with follow-up questions. I think this whole discussion has become tedious for everyone involved.

As for why I spoke up in defence of Tommy Robinson, the truth is, I’m not entirely sure. What I do know is that I care deeply about two principles: freedom of speech and justice. And—completely unrelated to TR—I don’t think I’ve ever felt so disheartened about the state of this country when it comes to those two values. Our freedom of expression is under threat in ways I’ve never seen before outside of wartime, and the actions of our police and judiciary regularly leave me appalled.

So perhaps Tommy Robinson, for all his flaws, has come to symbolise something bigger for me. He is, undeniably, a vocal advocate of free speech—and it’s equally undeniable that some of what he says has ruffled feathers in the establishment. It seems to me that the system has gone out of its way to silence him—sometimes, it appears, by questionable or even unlawful means. That strikes at the very heart of what I believe in: fairness. I don’t think it’s right when anyone—regardless of their past—is denied fair treatment by the media, the government, or the courts.

Maybe that’s why.
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Isn't Tommy Robinson asking us to judge large groups of immigrants based on the actions of a few? That doesn't feel fair to me.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
If he hadn’t punched somebody, he wouldn’t have any issue with the police, there’d be no ‘go fundme’ page set up and he’d never get the holiday money back and he might have to spend his own money.
@prayfortommy.
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couple of points of order to raise there if I may Chair?

1/ If he is confident he is innocent and there will be no charges why is the fund raiser page still up?
2/ what money? He has no money he declared himself bankrupt remember?

He's a fraud and a charlatan grifting off stupid people.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Rather judgemental of you. I wonder if you've been chased through a train station with some big bloke in your face shouting abuse at you and threatening you, even come at you with fists raised.

I'm not sure what I would have done in such circumstances.

Anyway, enough on this. I've made my point repeatedly. I am not a "fan" of his, and neither BTW am I a paedo, despite the abuse hurled my way on here.
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Rest assured, I’ve often thought you’re many things Chippy, and most of them I disagree with, but I’ve never once thought you were a paedophile.
Seems like the sort of abuse a 12 year old might hurl…
 
Chippy_boy said:
This will be my final comment on this thread—take it as you will, but please don’t respond with follow-up questions. I think this whole discussion has become tedious for everyone involved.

As for why I spoke up in defence of Tommy Robinson, the truth is, I’m not entirely sure. What I do know is that I care deeply about two principles: freedom of speech and justice. And—completely unrelated to TR—I don’t think I’ve ever felt so disheartened about the state of this country when it comes to those two values. Our freedom of expression is under threat in ways I’ve never seen before outside of wartime, and the actions of our police and judiciary regularly leave me appalled.

So perhaps Tommy Robinson, for all his flaws, has come to symbolise something bigger for me. He is, undeniably, a vocal advocate of free speech—and it’s equally undeniable that some of what he says has ruffled feathers in the establishment. It seems to me that the system has gone out of its way to silence him—sometimes, it appears, by questionable or even unlawful means. That strikes at the very heart of what I believe in: fairness. I don’t think it’s right when anyone—regardless of their past—is denied fair treatment by the media, the government, or the courts.

Maybe that’s why.
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So thick it’s actually scary.

Theres a difference between free speech and someone wanting the right to be racist.
 
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Uncle Wally One Ball said:
He is just an awful human being, and somehow taps into and brings out the worst in others. We are mostly all, and should be all, the antithesis of him. He is lying to everybody, and professionally. Keeps him in coke, holidays and lawyers bills I suppose and in the news since he is that fickle. I guess he is in it now and has to perpetuate the noise and division and hate otherwise he is skint and irrelevant and on his own to sort it all out
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Studies of the UK population have regularly shown that about 15-20% of people hold fairly hardcore racist views, of the type that certain races are inherently less intelligent, lazy, violent, dirty and hold to the superiority of certain races etc. They also show that about another 20-25% hold more causallly held culturally racist views that ebb and flow based on a variety of factors.

Our cultural trajectory was such that the hardcore nutters mostly kept to themselves and the more casual cultural racism was seen as a reflecting badly on the person indulging in it.

This has changed, predominantly I think as a result of the way the immigration debate has been framed by malevolent politicians and then exacerbated by merely incompetence ones.

Many people with unsavoury views have become emboldened and in some cases their Islamaphobia is simply a front/calling card for a whole range of deeply unpleasant ways of looking at their fellow man.
 
Chippy_boy said:
It seems to me that the system has gone out of its way to silence him—sometimes, it appears, by questionable or even unlawful means.
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I know you've said you won't reply any more and we should probably leave it at that, but I do think this comment shows the root of the problem here - You have provided zero evidence of "the system" using unlawful means to silence him.

Also given he never shuts the fuck up, how exactly has he been silenced at all?

The entire premise for your defence of him is imaginary.
 
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domalino said:
I know you've said you won't reply any more and we should probably leave it at that, but I do think this comment shows the root of the problem here - You have provided zero evidence of "the system" using unlawful means to silence him.

Also given he never shuts the fuck up, how exactly has he been silenced at all?

The entire premise for your defence of him is imaginary.
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"They're trying to silence us" is code for "it's not fair, we can't say the abhorrent things we think out loud without consequence".
 
bluethrunthru said:
more importantly we need to know his religion and full ethnicity and immigration status ....... thats how this works isn't it ( question for the gammons )
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Not sure if Stephen has ever been inside a place of worship, but I believe he is Irish (or at least travels under an Irish passport), so under the common travel area agreement he would have indefinite leave to remain.
 
Chippy_boy said:
This will be my final comment on this thread—take it as you will, but please don’t respond with follow-up questions. I think this whole discussion has become tedious for everyone involved.

As for why I spoke up in defence of Tommy Robinson, the truth is, I’m not entirely sure. What I do know is that I care deeply about two principles: freedom of speech and justice. And—completely unrelated to TR—I don’t think I’ve ever felt so disheartened about the state of this country when it comes to those two values. Our freedom of expression is under threat in ways I’ve never seen before outside of wartime, and the actions of our police and judiciary regularly leave me appalled.

So perhaps Tommy Robinson, for all his flaws, has come to symbolise something bigger for me. He is, undeniably, a vocal advocate of free speech—and it’s equally undeniable that some of what he says has ruffled feathers in the establishment. It seems to me that the system has gone out of its way to silence him—sometimes, it appears, by questionable or even unlawful means. That strikes at the very heart of what I believe in: fairness. I don’t think it’s right when anyone—regardless of their past—is denied fair treatment by the media, the government, or the courts.

Maybe that’s why.
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Expecting 'fair treatment' from any of those is naive at best.
 
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