Stephen Yaxley-Lennon

Has he paid the damages yet of £100k awarded against him in the Syrian schoolboy case?
 
moomba said:
I'll be concerned if and when it becomes clear the police have used questionable interpretations of the laws.

At the moment that isn't proven one way or the other. That's what we have the courts for I guess.
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The concern is that anyone can be stopped at a port or airport - randomly - for the purpose of determining whether he appears to be a person who is or has been concerned in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism.

And any person who is questioned must—

(a) give the examining officer any information in his possession which the officer requests;

(b) give the examining officer on request either a valid passport which includes a photograph or another document which establishes his identity;

(c) declare whether he has with him documents of a kind specified by the examining officer;

(d) give the examining officer on request any document which he has with him and which is of a kind specified by the officer.

For these purposes an examining officer may—

(a) stop a person or vehicle;

(b) detain a person.

For the purpose of detaining a person under this paragraph, an examining officer may authorise the person’s removal from a ship, aircraft or vehicle.


You can be questioned for a maximum of an hour then detained for 6...


So, yes, it is draconian - anyone can be questioned with absolutely no reason to be suspected of anything.

But a convicted criminal driving someone else's expensive car ... and who turns out to be breaking the currency laws... call it acting on a hunch.
 
rabby said:
What I think we've learned these past few pages is that Robinson is a rather dislikeable character with a dubious past.He has garnered a loyal following, some of who probably have questionable motives.
He also seems to have built up a rather large group of people who have a very strong dislike of him.
Whether this has filtered through to the police and others given the role of protecting us I don't know,but it seems many are unconcerned with the police using questionable interpretations of our laws as long as it's on someone they don't approve of.
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You see, that's a much better post.
 
hcblue95 said:
The guy is a known liar, criminal, grifter and ****. I would wait to learn the full picture rather than jump the gun to defend him and take his word for anything.
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Lest you missed it, I know he’s a criminal, and I have no time for him personally, and I’m not “defending him” only the concept and circumstances.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Lest you missed it, I know he’s a criminal, and I have no time for him personally, and I’m not “defending him” only the concept and circumstances.
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For the record, the prosecutors claim that he was stopped on the basis of his connection to individuals in actual prohibited groups (I believe neo-Nazi groups make up the majority of groups banned under the Terrorism Act), which would suggest some intelligence to those ends. It doesn't seem like the Bentley or money were anything to do with it. His defence claims that he was stopped as a 'fishing exercise' (i.e. We know this guy has links to the far right. Let's see what we can find). I guess we'll find out in court. I don't know how much of an association you need with prohibited groups to be done (the Palestine Action protests suggest the link can be pretty tenuous these days).
 
Vic said:
The concern is that anyone can be stopped at a port or airport - randomly - for the purpose of determining whether he appears to be a person who is or has been concerned in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism.

And any person who is questioned must—

(a) give the examining officer any information in his possession which the officer requests;

(b) give the examining officer on request either a valid passport which includes a photograph or another document which establishes his identity;

(c) declare whether he has with him documents of a kind specified by the examining officer;

(d) give the examining officer on request any document which he has with him and which is of a kind specified by the officer.

For these purposes an examining officer may—

(a) stop a person or vehicle;

(b) detain a person.

For the purpose of detaining a person under this paragraph, an examining officer may authorise the person’s removal from a ship, aircraft or vehicle.


You can be questioned for a maximum of an hour then detained for 6...


So, yes, it is draconian - anyone can be questioned with absolutely no reason to be suspected of anything.

But a convicted criminal driving someone else's expensive car ... and who turns out to be breaking the currency laws... call it acting on a hunch.
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And that “hunch” was????

He was charged with WHAT…from that “hunch”?

Terrorism charges for not giving his phone PIN?!

Hey, if you guys want to live under those kind of search and seizure laws, they yuk it up, but wait until you give the stink eye to some jacked up, uniform wearing numpty with a complex and you might quickly find out how many “laws” he finds you violating in a New York minute!

Resisting? “Didn’t help me put the cuffs on”
Assaulting a peace officer? “He told me to stop grabbing him by the shoulder and then his right hand struck me in the chest as he reached out.”
And on and on and on…

Then, you get to “plead” those spurious charges away by pleading guilty to whatever they want you to, just so you don’t get multiple convictions and possibly consecutive sentences.

The criminal justice system is a waste, at present, and needs significant reform, but, and make no mistake, the likes of TR might not like the reform I would prefer, either.
 
rabby said:
What I think we've learned these past few pages is that Robinson is a rather dislikeable character with a dubious past.He has garnered a loyal following, some of who probably have questionable motives.
He also seems to have built up a rather large group of people who have a very strong dislike of him.
Whether this has filtered through to the police and others given the role of protecting us I don't know,but it seems many are unconcerned with the police using questionable interpretations of our laws as long as it's on someone they don't approve of.
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Quite muchly what I think. Its fear that drives people to give up their freedoms and they like to make us scared of Tommy's Robinsons or Nick Robinsons, we will beg them to protect us even if it means subverting law.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
For the record, the prosecutors claim that he was stopped on the basis of his connection to individuals in actual prohibited groups (I believe neo-Nazi groups make up the majority of groups banned under the Terrorism Act), which would suggest some intelligence to those ends. It doesn't seem like the Bentley or money were anything to do with it. His defence claims that he was stopped as a 'fishing exercise' (i.e. We know this guy has links to the far right. Let's see what we can find). I guess we'll find out in court. I don't know how much of an association you need with prohibited groups to be done (the Palestine Action protests suggest the link can be pretty tenuous these days).
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Ah yes, the new “thought crime” of being “connected with an ACTUAL prohibited group!” (As opposed to a prohibited group we made up last week!!!)

From what was written, the uniform said he knew exactly who TR was when he rolled up , but I’m certain there was no prejudice at play.

I hope everyone understands I abhor TR and what he stands for, but am shouting as loud as I can about the new law fare that’s designed to corral public dissent. That’s it!

Commit violence, I’d throw away the key! But, free assembly, free speech, these are things we should jealously protect…ESPECIALLY that which we find most abhorrent, lest we one day find ourselves on the “wrong” side of that word and they come for us!
 
rabby said:
What I think we've learned these past few pages is that Robinson is a rather dislikeable character with a dubious past.He has garnered a loyal following, some of who probably have questionable motives.
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Agreed 100%!
rabby said:
He also seems to have built up a rather large group of people who have a very strong dislike of him.
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Spot on again!
rabby said:
Whether this has filtered through to the police and others given the role of protecting us I don't know,but it seems many are unconcerned with the police using questionable interpretations of our laws as long as it's on someone they don't approve of.
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“And then they came for me…”
 
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Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Being a convicted criminal whose leaving the country with a dual passport (falsely applied for) whilst on licence (for terrorism offences ) without informing the police / probation officer) with a bagful of cash (£15000) looks like a f@cking good reason to stop him to me.
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Going fishing?

Let’s be serious…

He’s a criminal because he SAYS things people in power don’t like, but with which many Brits quietly (or otherwise) agree. His method of communication is “unwelcome.”

His convictions:

Contempt of Court: In October 2024, Robinson was sentenced to 18 months in prison for contempt of court after admitting to repeating false allegations against a Syrian refugee, violating a High Court injunction issued in 2021. This was related to a libel lawsuit where Robinson was ordered to pay damages after falsely accusing the refugee of attacking English girls. He breached this injunction multiple times, including promoting a film titled “Silenced” which contained discredited claims. The court described his breaches as deliberate and flagrant.

Other: Robinson has served five prison terms between 2005 and 2025, with earlier convictions including contempt of court, stalking, and breaching court orders. He has also faced legal issues such as illegally entering the US and bankruptcy due to unpaid taxes and debts.

Recent Charges: In 2024, he was charged under the Terrorism Act for refusing to provide his phone PIN to police during a stop at the Channel Tunnel, a case still pending trial as of October 2025. This incident occurred after he was stopped at the Channel Tunnel after a protest in Trafalgar Square.

Robinson was released early in May 2025 from prison after a successful appeal that reduced his sentence for contempt of court.

In summary, Tommy Robinson’s UK convictions mainly involve contempt of court related to spreading false allegations, breaching court injunctions, legal consequences from libel cases, and charges under counter-terrorism laws for non-compliance with police investigations.

TL;DR???

“We don’t like what you say and who you say it about!”

Under the parameters above, Donald Trump would have been arrested EVERY FUCKING DAY OF BOTH PRESIDENCIES…so maybe there’s something to the draconian dragnet laws being used after all?!
 
hcblue95 said:
But you don't know the circumstances?
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The “circumstances” are detention under the Terrorism Act for failure to provide a PIN! After all, isn’t that the “crime” he is accused of?

Btw, my phone opens with Face ID. If I pull a face, close my eyes, stick my tongue out, etc…it doesn’t work! That’s an arrestable offense under the Terrorism Act…closing your eyes!!!
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Ah yes, the new “thought crime” of being “connected with an ACTUAL prohibited group!” (As opposed to a prohibited group we made up last week!!!)
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If thats the pathetic hill you wish to die on then so be it - here's an article showing how his rally invited far right extremists from abroad and from England's most high profile right wing hate peddlers most of who were members of proscribed organisations and have links to them too

 
ChicagoBlue said:
Going fishing?

Let’s be serious…

He’s a criminal because he SAYS things people in power don’t like, but with which many Brits quietly (or otherwise) agree. His method of communication is “unwelcome.”
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Cocaine possession, assault, GBH and fraud.

But you ‘forgot’ to add those to your little list.

You’re welcome
 
moomba said:
But as a former customs officer for more than a decade, what he was asked to do seems perfectly reasonable to me. Ive done it myself, I've questioned people, I've detained them, I've downloaded data of phones. Not because of any great conspiracy, because that's the job I was paid to do.
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Firstly, thank you for doing a generally thankless task and sharing your expertise with us.

I don’t think you, or almost anyone ever, operates out of a sense of being part of a grand conspiracy.

My biggest issues are he seems to have been targeted (rightly or wrongly, and I realize he brought it on himself), and I vehemently disagree with the use of a Terrorism Act to conduct what I believe to be a warrantless fishing expedition to take your phone and search it.

Again, I believe in strong borders and appreciate your service to the country.
 
bluethrunthru said:
If thats the pathetic hill you wish to die on then so be it - here's an article showing how his rally invited far right extremists from abroad and from England's most high profile right wing hate peddlers most of who were members of proscribed organisations and have links to them too

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I’m not going to die on ANY hill, pathetic or not in your eyes, for TR, but I’m willing to charge the hill for my right to privacy and free speech.

One man’s right wing hate peddler is another man’s Deputy Chief of Staff, given the red carpet treatment wherever his Boss takes him, so there’s that!

BTW, love the “hopenothate.org” URL. Tugs on the heartstrings doesn’t it?! Almost like No Child Left Behind and the Clean Air Bill…”but it’s right there in the name!”

From your URL…

“Today saw Britain’s largest ever far-right protest with police estimating 150,000 people in attendance for the “Unite the Kingdom” rally. Organised by Stephen Lennon — aka Tommy Robinson — the event attracted some of the most extreme figures in the British far right. Although the event was nominally concerned with “unity, boldness and truth”, it was marred by far-right campaigners expressing the belief that Britain is being invaded by Islam.

Across Saturday afternoon, the crowd were subjected to an array of speeches by high profile far-right figures from the UK and abroad including, Elon Musk (who appeared by video link), the French far-right politician Éric Zemmour, Rebel News’s Ezra Levant and politicians and activists from Germany, Poland, Holland, Ireland, Spain, Belgium and New Zealand.”

Yep, struggling to see the problem there. Sounds like lots of local support, and even from around Europe and further afield.

Where’s the big problem?
 
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babyape said:
Cocaine possession, assault, GBH and fraud.

But you ‘forgot’ to add those to your little list.

You’re welcome
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Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

Was he arrested for any of those offenses?
Did he do his time?

He’s a bad un…I get it and you’ll get no argument from me, but THE REAL PROBLEM is people want to listen to his views.
Why?
What’s the root cause of that discontent?
Instead of addressing those issues, should we create ever more dragnet laws to sweep up ever more “fringe” beliefs?

The country is going in the shitter and the big distractor is “We’ve got to stop these far right assholes from speaking out about what they believe is a fundamental problem in the country, because, well, it’s just not cricket!”

Knock yourself out!

How long is THAT piece of string?
 
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