Stevan Jovetic

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mancboy123 said:
Proelia said:
thenabster said:
Lamela, Draxler and Kevin de bruyne are as available as Jovetic. We would pay about the same price for Draxler, Jovetic and Lamela. So what's the point?

you obviously no fuck all just check what draxlers buy out clause is

Real Madrid and City both matched draxlers buy out clause and the player turned him down, how does that make him available?

Where does it say we matched his buyout clause. If we listened tot the papers we matched the buyout clause of 50 players. I really doubt we ever actually bid for him.<br /><br />-- Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:36 am --<br /><br />
Tron Coltrane said:
thenabster said:
Jumanji said:
Try naming available players and your list was shit.

Lamela, Draxler and Kevin de bruyne are as available as Jovetic. We would pay about the same price for Draxler, Jovetic and Lamela. So what's the point?

Lamela: fair play... if Jovetic fell through and we picked up Lamela instead, I'd still be as happy as a kid in a candy store.

As for the other two: de Bruyne is content after Mourinho assured him he's in his first team plans just two weeks ago, and Draxler has a buyout clause of £34 million - a fee which was reportedly met by both us and Madrid, but the kid chose to stay at Schalke and continue to develop. Both players are about as unavailable as it gets.

I'm pretty sure we never bid 34m for Draxler. I'm pretty sure we never even inquired for him. Anyway, I would rather pay 34m for Draxler than pay 30m for Jovetic. Same thing goes with Lamela.
 
thenabster said:
mancboy123 said:
Proelia said:
you obviously no fuck all just check what draxlers buy out clause is

Real Madrid and City both matched draxlers buy out clause and the player turned him down, how does that make him available?

Where does it say we matched his buyout clause. If we listened tot the papers we matched the buyout clause of 50 players. I really doubt we ever actually bid for him.

-- Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:36 am --

Tron Coltrane said:
thenabster said:
Lamela, Draxler and Kevin de bruyne are as available as Jovetic. We would pay about the same price for Draxler, Jovetic and Lamela. So what's the point?

Lamela: fair play... if Jovetic fell through and we picked up Lamela instead, I'd still be as happy as a kid in a candy store.

As for the other two: de Bruyne is content after Mourinho assured him he's in his first team plans just two weeks ago, and Draxler has a buyout clause of £34 million - a fee which was reportedly met by both us and Madrid, but the kid chose to stay at Schalke and continue to develop. Both players are about as unavailable as it gets.

I'm pretty sure we never bid 34m for Draxler. I'm pretty sure we never even inquired for him. Anyway, I would rather pay 34m for Draxler than pay 30m for Jovetic. Same thing goes with Lamela.

Who says we're paying 30million? ( € or £ btw? )
 
thenabster said:
Jumanji said:
Try naming available players and your list was shit.

Lamela, Draxler and Kevin de bruyne are as available as Jovetic. We would pay about the same price for Draxler, Jovetic and Lamela. So what's the point?

If you seriously think that Chelsea would sell de Bruyne to us, you need your head examining - that is not going to happen, so to us (or any other team in the Premier League, I would wager) de Bruyne is unavailable.

Onto Draxler - we would quite simply not pay the same price for him, as his release clause is about 10 million more than what we're rumoured to be paying for Jovetic. Add to that the fact that this clause has allegedly already been met but a couple of Clubs (one of which happens to be us), and the player has turned the offers down, indicated that Draxler is unavailable too.

Which leaves us with just Lamela from your list - who I think is both available, and a better player than Jovetic (marginally at the moment, but with greater potential I would say). However he plays as a right sided forward/winger at Roma, and we have just bought Navas to fill that exact same role, plus have Aguero who is very much a right footed striker. Milner is also right footed. We need balance to the side, and there is no sense in stockpiling players who all want to play in the same position - this is one of the reasons Arsenal have been so shit for so long!

The only players who are comfortable playing on the left of our attack are Silva, Nasri and Sinclair - and Silva is very much our central attacking force (even more so now Tevez has gone). Its no coincidence that both Negredo and Jovetic have played most of their careers on the left of an attacking line-up.

Its about balance, and building a team - not just buying a load of amazing players irrespective of where on the pitch they are best suited to playing!
 
Rolee said:
thenabster said:
mancboy123 said:
Real Madrid and City both matched draxlers buy out clause and the player turned him down, how does that make him available?

Where does it say we matched his buyout clause. If we listened tot the papers we matched the buyout clause of 50 players. I really doubt we ever actually bid for him.

-- Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:36 am --

Tron Coltrane said:
Lamela: fair play... if Jovetic fell through and we picked up Lamela instead, I'd still be as happy as a kid in a candy store.

As for the other two: de Bruyne is content after Mourinho assured him he's in his first team plans just two weeks ago, and Draxler has a buyout clause of £34 million - a fee which was reportedly met by both us and Madrid, but the kid chose to stay at Schalke and continue to develop. Both players are about as unavailable as it gets.

I'm pretty sure we never bid 34m for Draxler. I'm pretty sure we never even inquired for him. Anyway, I would rather pay 34m for Draxler than pay 30m for Jovetic. Same thing goes with Lamela.

Who says we're paying 30million? ( € or £ btw? )

I've read reports that range between 27m pounds to 32m pounds. I'll just go with the average for now.<br /><br />-- Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:44 am --<br /><br />
Optimus Prime said:
thenabster said:
Jumanji said:
Try naming available players and your list was shit.

Lamela, Draxler and Kevin de bruyne are as available as Jovetic. We would pay about the same price for Draxler, Jovetic and Lamela. So what's the point?

If you seriously think that Chelsea would sell de Bruyne to us, you need your head examining - that is not going to happen, so to us (or any other team in the Premier League, I would wager) de Bruyne is unavailable.

Onto Draxler - we would quite simply not pay the same price for him, as his release clause is about 10 million more than what we're rumoured to be paying for Jovetic. Add to that the fact that this clause has allegedly already been met but a couple of Clubs (one of which happens to be us), and the player has turned the offers down, indicated that Draxler is unavailable too.

Which leaves us with just Lamela from your list - who I think is both available, and a better player than Jovetic (marginally at the moment, but with greater potential I would say). However he plays as a right sided forward/winger at Roma, and we have just bought Navas to fill that exact same role, plus have Aguero who is very much a right footed striker. Milner is also right footed. We need balance to the side, and there is no sense in stockpiling players who all want to play in the same position - this is one of the reasons Arsenal have been so shit for so long!

The only players who are comfortable playing on the left of our attack are Silva, Nasri and Sinclair - and Silva is very much our central attacking force (even more so now Tevez has gone). Its no coincidence that both Negredo and Jovetic have played most of their careers on the left of an attacking line-up.

Its about balance, and building a team - not just buying a load of amazing players irrespective of where on the pitch they are best suited to playing!

Jovetic doesn't play on the left of the attack. He strictly plays in the middle behind a striker. Lamela is a right footed forward/winger that is fast. He would have a greater impact on the left than Jovetic.

With that in mind, draw me your lineup of how we'll look with Jovetic in the squad.
 
thenabster said:
Rolee said:
thenabster said:
Where does it say we matched his buyout clause. If we listened tot the papers we matched the buyout clause of 50 players. I really doubt we ever actually bid for him.

-- Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:36 am --



I'm pretty sure we never bid 34m for Draxler. I'm pretty sure we never even inquired for him. Anyway, I would rather pay 34m for Draxler than pay 30m for Jovetic. Same thing goes with Lamela.

Who says we're paying 30million? ( € or £ btw? )

I've read reports that range between 27m pounds to 32m pounds. I'll just go with the average for now.

-- Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:44 am --

Optimus Prime said:
thenabster said:
Lamela, Draxler and Kevin de bruyne are as available as Jovetic. We would pay about the same price for Draxler, Jovetic and Lamela. So what's the point?

If you seriously think that Chelsea would sell de Bruyne to us, you need your head examining - that is not going to happen, so to us (or any other team in the Premier League, I would wager) de Bruyne is unavailable.

Onto Draxler - we would quite simply not pay the same price for him, as his release clause is about 10 million more than what we're rumoured to be paying for Jovetic. Add to that the fact that this clause has allegedly already been met but a couple of Clubs (one of which happens to be us), and the player has turned the offers down, indicated that Draxler is unavailable too.

Which leaves us with just Lamela from your list - who I think is both available, and a better player than Jovetic (marginally at the moment, but with greater potential I would say). However he plays as a right sided forward/winger at Roma, and we have just bought Navas to fill that exact same role, plus have Aguero who is very much a right footed striker. Milner is also right footed. We need balance to the side, and there is no sense in stockpiling players who all want to play in the same position - this is one of the reasons Arsenal have been so shit for so long!

The only players who are comfortable playing on the left of our attack are Silva, Nasri and Sinclair - and Silva is very much our central attacking force (even more so now Tevez has gone). Its no coincidence that both Negredo and Jovetic have played most of their careers on the left of an attacking line-up.

Its about balance, and building a team - not just buying a load of amazing players irrespective of where on the pitch they are best suited to playing!

Jovetic doesn't play on the left of the attack. He strictly plays in the middle behind a striker. Lamela is a right footed forward/winger that is fast. He would have a greater impact on the left than Jovetic.

With that in mind, draw me your lineup of how we'll look with Jovetic in the squad.
Dude its like 50 against your one opinion. You are whacking a dead horse right now.
 
Chevelle said:
thenabster said:
Rolee said:
Who says we're paying 30million? ( € or £ btw? )

I've read reports that range between 27m pounds to 32m pounds. I'll just go with the average for now.

-- Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:44 am --

Optimus Prime said:
If you seriously think that Chelsea would sell de Bruyne to us, you need your head examining - that is not going to happen, so to us (or any other team in the Premier League, I would wager) de Bruyne is unavailable.

Onto Draxler - we would quite simply not pay the same price for him, as his release clause is about 10 million more than what we're rumoured to be paying for Jovetic. Add to that the fact that this clause has allegedly already been met but a couple of Clubs (one of which happens to be us), and the player has turned the offers down, indicated that Draxler is unavailable too.

Which leaves us with just Lamela from your list - who I think is both available, and a better player than Jovetic (marginally at the moment, but with greater potential I would say). However he plays as a right sided forward/winger at Roma, and we have just bought Navas to fill that exact same role, plus have Aguero who is very much a right footed striker. Milner is also right footed. We need balance to the side, and there is no sense in stockpiling players who all want to play in the same position - this is one of the reasons Arsenal have been so shit for so long!

The only players who are comfortable playing on the left of our attack are Silva, Nasri and Sinclair - and Silva is very much our central attacking force (even more so now Tevez has gone). Its no coincidence that both Negredo and Jovetic have played most of their careers on the left of an attacking line-up.

Its about balance, and building a team - not just buying a load of amazing players irrespective of where on the pitch they are best suited to playing!

Jovetic doesn't play on the left of the attack. He strictly plays in the middle behind a striker. Lamela is a right footed forward/winger that is fast. He would have a greater impact on the left than Jovetic.

With that in mind, draw me your lineup of how we'll look with Jovetic in the squad.
Dude its like 50 against your one opinion. You are whacking a dead horse right now.

It doesn't really matter. I'm sticking to my guns like the 50 others are.
 
So essentially what you're saying is that you dont believe the paper reports that we matched draxlers buyout clause but you do believe the paper reports of how much we are supposing paying for jovetic. You cant have it both ways you cant use the papers to support one argument and the dismiss them to support another.
 
I would like to add that one other thing I like about Jovetic is that he's captain at Fiorentina. That counts for something.
 
Anybody know if we're close to getting this deal done, or are we
still shitting it about putting a bid in?.
 
@thenabster,

You obviously missed this quote from Della Vale then when you were scouting?

"We won't go down from our 30 million euro demand and won't wait much longer."

Btw he doesn't strictly play in the centre, yet another example that you haven't seen him play much, if at all.
 
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