Stop fracking

Mustard Dave said:
I do not profess to be an expert on these matters, but I'd say people with a very rudimentary understand are the people most likely to find that image shocking. The water is clearly there to act as some sort of barrier, which the article suggests, but what scientific explanation can you use to back up your suggestion that those birds are exposed to radiation that is liable to be spread as a result? The nuclear industry is subject to stringent regulation, and I would expect if there was a risk, those ponds would be covered.
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Hahaha. Fuck me. Where to start.

The water acts as a barrier for ionising rays, i.e it'll prevent you being irradiated with a lethal dose as would happen if you were stood near the spent fuel and the pool was empty. It also cools the spent fuel and prevents it melting and releasing huge amounts of extremely radioactive gases.

But most of the fuel in that pool is decades old, it's neglected and some of it has literally eroded into highly radioactive sludge and sediment.

The pool is full of that stuff.

Those birds in the pool will pick up particles of very dangerous radioactive substances on their feathers, and then they'll carry it to wherever they leave to.

Like @andyhinch said, some of the birds that roost and nest on the site, and congregate there, are so radioactively contaminated that when they leave the site they pose a threat to the health of people who come into contact with them. There are people in Seascale that have literally had their gardens dug up because they've been so contaminated by such birds that their garden exceeded a threshold to qualify as radioactive waste.

The spent fuel pool in question is an embarrassment to the industry and is utterly shocking to anyone with a clue. It's genuinely infamous, as much as the state it's in has been attempted to be covered up for so long. It's one of the worst examples of neglect in the industry in Europe, it's an embarrassment for the government and Britain. It's going to cost the taxpayer billions to clean up as part of the decommissioning of the site and others like it.

If you don't find those images shocking then I'm afraid you're staggeringly short of a clue. A rudimentary understanding of this topic would be a step up for you fella.

You just seem determined to dismiss this as an issue, even pointing to pedantry about the family of birds mentioned in the BBC link earlier. Laughable.

The nuclear industry is subject to stringent regulation, and I would expect if there was a risk, those ponds would be covered
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Genuinely one of the funniest things I've read in a while. You're deluded mate.
 
RichardDunneOwnGoal said:
Hahaha. Fuck me. Where to start.

The water acts as a barrier for ionising rays, i.e it'll prevent you being irradiated with a lethal dose as would happen if you were stood near the spent fuel and the pool was empty. It also cools the spent fuel and prevents it melting and releasing huge amounts of extremely radioactive gases.

But most of the fuel in that pool is decades old, it's neglected and some of it has literally eroded into highly radioactive sludge and sediment.

The pool is full of that stuff.

Those birds in the pool will pick up particles of very dangerous radioactive substances on their feathers, and then they'll carry it to wherever they leave to.

Like @andyhinch said, some of the birds that roost and nest on the site, and congregate there, are so radioactively contaminated that when they leave the site they pose a threat to the health of people who come into contact with them. There are people in Seascale that have literally had their gardens dug up because they've been so contaminated by such birds that their garden exceeded a threshold to qualify as radioactive waste.

The spent fuel pool in question is an embarrassment to the industry and is utterly shocking to anyone with a clue. It's genuinely infamous, as much as the state it's in has been attempted to be covered up for so long. It's one of the worst examples of neglect in the industry in Europe, it's an embarrassment for the government and Britain. It's going to cost the taxpayer billions to clean up as part of the decommissioning of the site and others like it.

If you don't find those images shocking then I'm afraid you're staggeringly short of a clue. A rudimentary understanding of this topic would be a step up for you fella.

You just seem determined to dismiss this as an issue, even pointing to pedantry about the family of birds mentioned in the BBC link earlier. Laughable.



Genuinely one of the funniest things I've read in a while. You're deluded mate.
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Tbh it's not as bad as your making out mate, it is very stringently regulated unbelievably so but the historic plants were poorly designed, you must remember back in the 40's and 50's the prime driver was the bomb and things were done at a pace, it's now incumbent on bnfl to clean it up, as you say at a cost of billions
 
andyhinch said:
Tbh it's not as bad as your making out mate, it is very stringently regulated unbelievably so but the historic plants were poorly designed, you must remember back in the 40's and 50's the prime driver was the bomb and things were done at a pace, it's now incumbent on bnfl to clean it up, as you say at a cost of billions
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Come on mate, Sellafield has contaminated the coast of Seascale and the Irish Sea. The spent fuel pools at B30 are in the state they are because of incompetence and an irresponsible attitude to the maintaince and safety of the site.

That's not even to mention the fire there when it was named Windscale, one of the worst accidents in the industry in Europe until Chernobyl.

Like you say, poor design with a primary purpose to just helping us militarily helped contribute to the shambles the site is, but let's not water down the scale and severity of the mess.

I'm sure you're aware of lesser known equally damning things that you're reticent to share here.

Tens of billions of taxpayer's money will be used to clean up Sellafield alone. It's a disgrace as far as I'm concerned.

We still have the largest stockpile of p-239 in the whole world at the site that we have no idea what to do with, since the enormous failed investment into the MOX reprocessing facilities are now worthless as there are no longer any buyers since the Japanese backed out following Fukushima.

The whole site is a joke, an enormous drain for the public purse for likely hundreds of years to come, and an environmental stain on the British Isles.
 
RichardDunneOwnGoal said:
Come on mate, Sellafield has contaminated the coast of Seascale and the Irish Sea. The spent fuel pools at B30 are in the state they are because of incompetence and an irresponsible attitude to the maintaince and safety of the site.

That's not even to mention the fire there when it was named Windscale, one of the worst accidents in the industry in Europe until Chernobyl.

Like you say, poor design with a primary purpose to just helping us militarily helped contribute to the shambles the site is, but let's not water down the scale and severity of the mess.

I'm sure you're aware of lesser know more damning things that you're reticent to share.

Tens of billions of taxpayer's money will be used to clean up Sellafield alone. It's a disgrace as far as I'm concerned.

We still have the largest stockpile of p-239 in the whole world at the site that we have no idea what to do with, since the enormous failed investment into the MOX reprocessing facilities are now worthless as there are no longer any buyers since the Japanese backed out following Fukushima.

The whole site is a joke, an enormous drain for the public purse for likely hundreds of years to come, and an environmental stain on the British Isles.
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I do go fishing off the coast so I must have some faith in, spend a lot of money cleaning up dirty 30, but we've got what we've got, I'm not happy about they way a lot of things are done up there but trust me the regulations are unbelievably stringent on what you can do, as a senior design engineer I had to comply with them.
 
RichardDunneOwnGoal said:
Come on mate, Sellafield has contaminated the coast of Seascale and the Irish Sea. The spent fuel pools at B30 are in the state they are because of incompetence and an irresponsible attitude to the maintaince and safety of the site.

That's not even to mention the fire there when it was named Windscale, one of the worst accidents in the industry in Europe until Chernobyl.

Like you say, poor design with a primary purpose to just helping us militarily helped contribute to the shambles the site is, but let's not water down the scale and severity of the mess.

I'm sure you're aware of lesser known equally damning things that you're reticent to share here.

Tens of billions of taxpayer's money will be used to clean up Sellafield alone. It's a disgrace as far as I'm concerned.

We still have the largest stockpile of p-239 in the whole world at the site that we have no idea what to do with, since the enormous failed investment into the MOX reprocessing facilities are now worthless as there are no longer any buyers since the Japanese backed out following Fukushima.

The whole site is a joke, an enormous drain for the public purse for likely hundreds of years to come, and an environmental stain on the British Isles.
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You're using poor planning due to lack of knowledge in the 1940s and 1950s as justification for abandoning Nuclear Power in the 2010s. Things have moved on like in all industries. Unfortunately we're left with the legacy of what happened in the 1950s to 1970s but that's a different issue to the nuclear industry today. It's like saying we shouldn't fly because the safety record of Comets and Dakotas wasn't great.
 
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