Stuart Brennan. MEN.

[stuart brennan]

That article about ten goals is one of the crap excuses for journalism that has been criticised on here recently. Don't deflect Stuart to a figment of your imagination and do not patronise with semantics about bonanzas and thrillers. To tie our seven nil win in with their three one win is farcical. Some things are indefensible.

I'll ask you the same question - if your brief, as it was for the website person, to write an article which briefly covered the football events of BOTH Manchester clubs, what would your headline be.
This was not on the City site, or the United site, but on the main football section, which people might go to for a quick summary.
Again, I am not defending the headline, because it was not great, but to use it as evidence of some strange anti-City conspiracy is just wrong

 

[Danamy]

You have to be taking the piss?

You defend that headline as being a story outlining the day's happenings, that really is unreal.

We scored 7 and the scum scored 3 and you think "Ten-goal bonanza" is an un-biased headline....

You really couldn't make it up.

I don't think it's a great headline, but the website people need to get stuff up quickly. If you had to write a short headline which covered the main Manchester football events of that day, what would it be, out of interest?

"City are in seventh heaven whilst United were caught cottaging at Fulham"?

 

[City Raider]

fair play for fighting your corner stuart but there's no way you can keep all supporters of the same club happy, let alone supporters of two different clubs who genuinely hate each other

our expectations of a manchester paper are probably higher, not because we see ourselves as manchester's team but because finding pro-city articles in the dailys is a needle in a haystack job - we expect a manchester paper to fight our corner and that isn't always evident

this isn't a reflection on you, its often about editorial decisions/headlines etc

 

[andyhinch]

You have to be taking the piss?

You defend that headline as being a story outlining the day's happenings, that really is unreal.

We scored 7 and the scum scored 3 and you think "Ten-goal bonanza" is an un-biased headline....

You really couldn't make it up.

I don't think it's a great headline, but the website people need to get stuff up quickly. If you had to write a short headline which covered the main Manchester football events of that day, what would it be, out of interest?

"City are in seventh heaven whilst United were caught cottaging at Fulham"?

It's all getting a bit us against them boys, I feel like it at times, but were above that, we're city, live it, breath it , love it:)

 

[stuart brennan]

However, regardless of that, I am entitled to my opinion that a newspaper should report the news and not churlish and childish opinion, something that you have then tried to defend by belittling me
I may be old fashioned but i don't deserve to have my opinion rubbished in such a manner because i disagree with your assessment of Dianne Burke

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine, it is just that mine holds more weight because I actually understand the business in which I work, and you clearly don't.
If I was to proffer an opinion on your profession, I am certain it would not be as knowledgeable or pertinent as yours.
What is your profession, by the way?
I happen to agree with you that newspapers contain too much nonsense, but these things are the fault of the readership, not the newspapers - drivel sells.

 

[Anonymous]

It would be a headline that had fuck all to do the swamp dwellers and more to do with us scoring 7.

"Magnificent 7" maybe?

So how does that headline cover both clubs, which is what the article was meant to do?

"City triumph to 7 and Utd with good away win as both clubs win."

There you go.

The difference between what I have just written and what is actually printed in the headline is that mine is nothing but the truth, whilst the headline in your paper blurs the truth to make people believe Utd were a key factor in both teams scoring 10, which they weren't.

With my headline there, both sets of fans would have accepted it.

 

[steviemc]

It would be a headline that had fuck all to do the swamp dwellers and more to do with us scoring 7.

"Magnificent 7" maybe?

So how does that headline cover both clubs, which is what the article was meant to do?

I think the feeling on here is that had the scorelines been swapped between both Manchester clubs i.e them winning 7-0, would the headlines have been produced the same? I have a strong feeling they wouldn't. That said, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, and fair play for commenting within the forum.

 

[Rammy Blue]

However, regardless of that, I am entitled to my opinion that a newspaper should report the news and not churlish and childish opinion, something that you have then tried to defend by belittling me
I may be old fashioned but i don't deserve to have my opinion rubbished in such a manner because i disagree with your assessment of Dianne Burke

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine, it is just that mine holds more weight because I actually understand the business in which I work, and you clearly don't.
If I was to proffer an opinion on your profession, I am certain it would not be as knowledgeable or pertinent as yours.
What is your profession, by the way?
I happen to agree with you that newspapers contain too much nonsense, but these things are the fault of the readership, not the newspapers - drivel sells.

Quality.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

MEN normally separates the clubs news stories including match reports. I picked up on that 10 goal headline at the time and it cant be defended. It may seem inane to some but it shows an agenda which is petty and reeks of rag.

 

[stuart brennan]

fair play for fighting your corner stuart but there's no way you can keep all supporters of the same club happy, let alone supporters of two different clubs who genuinely hate each other

our expectations of a manchester paper are probably higher, not because we see ourselves as manchester's team but because finding pro-city articles in the dailys is a needle in a haystack job - we expect a manchester paper to fight our corner and that isn't always evident

this isn't a reflection on you, its often about editorial decisions/headlines etc

Well, I'm not quite sure what else I can do on that score, because I frequently fight City's corner on all kinds of issues.
The trouble is that if I write a dozen positive articles, it barely makes a ripple. Then Dianne Bourne has a bit of fun with a diary story, and the vengeful hounds of Blue hell are let loose!
That can only be because there are some people who, either consciously or subconsciously, dismiss anything that does not back up their entrenched viewpoint, and leap on anything, however insignificant, that does.