Sturgeon wants another referendum

[blueinsa]

Spain have said they will veto any attempt for an independent Scotland still being in the EU.

That's that then.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Shame the RWNJs don't see the hypocrisy. Mind they are not that bright to start with so no surprise.

Talking of hypocrisy and not so bright, Didn't they(the snp) vote to leave the EU in the first referendum?

 

[Magicpole]

Because she is an attention seeking wanna be.

She will be on I am a celebrity get me out of here in the next 5 years. Guaranteed.

Do you want to put £10k on that? Both of us deposit the money in an independent account.

Under your logic the money is Guaranteed.

Certainly be the easiest ten grand I've ever made.

Ok you don't like her but keep it real. Like maybe doing a but if reading about her, what's she's about. What she us trying to do. What she has already done?

You know, a logical approach to forming an opinion, rather than taking a right wing media agenda as fact. They demonise their enemies. People like you seem to swallow that without doing background checks to see if they stand up.

The vast majority of SNP voters are ex labour voters not bravehearts.

 

[stony]

Spain have said they will veto any attempt for an independent Scotland still being in the EU.

That's that then.

They've got some fucking neck on them have the Dons. The only reason they'll veto Scotland, is because they don't want another country like themselves, who will take more out than they put in. Pure self fucking interest from the sponging twats.

 

[Magicpole]

So if Scotland get indyref2 and vote to leave the UK then somehow get to join the EU, if and when they become a bit of a basket case economically and need to be bailed out by the EU would they have to turn over all their oil to the EU like Greece might have to turn over all their gold reserves (think I read it somewhere about Greece and it's gold reserves)

Of course. That's it. Do you work for the government? You really should with your powers.

Fuck sake

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Do you want to put £10k on that? Both of us deposit the money in an independent account.

Under your logic the money is Guaranteed.

Certainly be the easiest ten grand I've ever made.

Ok you don't like her but keep it real. Like maybe doing a but if reading about her, what's she's about. What she us trying to do. What she has already done?

You know, a logical approach to forming an opinion, rather than taking a right wing media agenda as fact. They demonise their enemies. People like you seem to swallow that without doing background checks to see if they stand up.

The vast majority of SNP voters are ex labour voters not bravehearts.

It's a football forum you doughnut. Do you think it's a prerequisite on posting that you have to have done a detailed background check on the subject matter of the post.

A bit like your " we have all the fish" post.

My opinion of her is she is an attention seeking , one dimensional , trouble causing, English hating numpty. That's my view of her so what?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I've no problem with a referendum to break up the UK, allowing Scotland to go it alone, but it would have to be a clean break. The problem is that Sturgeon would expect 92% of us to pay for 8% of to go it alone, and the cheeky cow would expect us to pay for the wall.

 

[Tanzeylee]

Of course. That's it. Do you work for the government? You really should with your powers.

Fuck sake

Nar I'm just a working class lad from Manchester asking a question, you on the other hand are a braveheart wanna be that was probably kicked off the celtic forums for talking shite and being an utter know nowt bore, the question was actually aimed at somebody on the forum that might have some real knowledge.

 

[Magicpole]

It's a football forum you doughnut. Do you think it's a prerequisite on posting that you have to have done a detailed background check on the subject matter of the post.

A bit like your " we have all the fish" post.

My opinion of her is she is an attention seeking , one dimensional , trouble causing, English hating numpty. That's my view of her so what?

It's wrong that's what.

If you read about her you would see that.

We have most of the fish is now my position, after reading about it. I accepted that.

And it's a football site off topic. Having an understanding about football helps in the Blueroom. Having the same principals when commenting about something political surely helps that?

If you make a statement without being able to back it up it's just somebody else's view that you are repeating.

I fucked up with the fish. You've don't the same here.

 

[Magicpole]

Nar I'm just a working class lad from Manchester asking a question, you on the other hand are a braveheart wanna be that was probably kicked off the celtic forums for talking shite and being an utter know nowt bore, the question was actually aimed at somebody on the forum that might have some real knowledge.

Those powers are even better than I first thought. If you're posts are directed at individuals can you mention that.

I hate bravehearts btw. I might be boring though, so I will give you that.

Define "real knowledge"

Is that knowledge that backs up your view exclusively? Or, actual facts that may not always welcome.

Your assertion about taking the oil was fucking ludicrous. Sorry for pointing that out to you.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

It's wrong that's what.

If you read about her you would see that.

We have most of the fish is now my position, after reading about it. I accepted that.

And it's a football site off topic. Having an understanding about football helps in the Blueroom. Having the same principals when commenting about something political surely helps that?

If you make a statement without being able to back it up it's just somebody else's view that you are repeating.

I fucked up with the fish. You've don't the same here.

How can you say that, I am not saying it's a fact I am saying that my view of HER. How can you argue with me what my view of a third person is? Put forward a counter argument as to why she is such a fantastic balanced individual and we can read about how her and Alex salmond really are swell guys.

I don't like her nor salmond at all.

Yesterday's announcement was merely to get maximum news coverage and cause skullduggery . Great you may think she is a genius for doing so. I don't, I don't like her at all.

 

[Magicpole]

How can you say that, I am not saying it's a fact I am saying that my view of HER. How can you argue with me what my view of a third person is? Put forward a counter argument as to why she is such a fantastic balanced individual and we can read about how her and Alex salmond really are swell guys.

I don't like her nor salmond at all.

Yesterday's announcement was merely to get maximum news coverage and cause skullduggery . Great you may think she is a genius for doing so. I don't, I don't like her at all.

What's the point? Your mind is made up. You have made an assessment, by your own admission, may not be a fact. Make it a fact by reading about someone before judging them.

That's all I'm saying.

As I said, flogging dead horses is a waste of time.

This is being reduced to a person when it's a country who will decide.

Character assassination is the oldest trick in the establishments book. They use it because people swallow it.

Hating what's she's all about surely requires knowing what she's all about?

Maybe I have got it all wrong.

Anyway, as I said, we will leave it there. We go round in circles enough on the EU and Trump threads and getting into another one holds no attraction.

 

[Tanzeylee]

Those powers are even better than I first thought. If you're posts are directed at individuals can you mention that.

I hate bravehearts btw. I might be boring though, so I will give you that.

Define "real knowledge"

Is that knowledge that backs up your view exclusively? Or, actual facts that may not always welcome.

Your assertion about taking the oil was fucking ludicrous. Sorry for pointing that out to you.

It was a general question to the forum for members that know a far bit about how the EU works(so not directed at you in any way)

"I'm 6ft12 and all scots are hard as fuck, we do all the fighting" (copyright magicpole)

People that really know stuff

Actual facts are always preferred, if they back up my view then fan dabby dozzy, if not at least I've got the facts and knowledge

If it's right what i read about the EU wanting to take Greeces gold reserves(tho I might have dreamt that) if they fail to pay back the loans then that could possibly happen to Scotland if the have to be bailed out by the EU and are unable to pay back the loans, tho obviously with oil reserves as Scotland don't have any gold(not taking into account any vulgar cosmetic dentistry) so might not be so ludicrous given the EUs lust for money

 

[Magicpole]

It was a general question to the forum for members that know a far bit about how the EU works(so not directed at you in any way)

"I'm 6ft12 and all scots are hard as fuck, we do all the fighting" (copyright magicpole)

People that really know stuff

Actual facts are always preferred, if they back up my view then fan dabby dozzy, if not at least I've got the facts and knowledge

If it's right what i read about the EU wanting to take Greeces gold reserves(tho I might have dreamt that) if they fail to pay back the loans then that could possibly happen to Scotland if the have to be bailed out by the EU and are unable to pay back the loans, tho obviously with oil reserves as Scotland don't have any gold(not taking into account any vulgar cosmetic dentistry) so might not be so ludicrous given the EUs lust for money

I'm 6ft12 and all scots are hard as fuck, we do all the fighting" (copyright magicpole

That was a tongue in cheek retort to us being called fodder.

I have never said I or all Scots are hard as fuck either.

You are assuming that we will be bankrupt and they will take the oil.

Where dud that actually come from? Who said it and when?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

It's a football forum you doughnut. Do you think it's a prerequisite on posting that you have to have done a detailed background check on the subject matter of the post.

A bit like your " we have all the fish" post.

My opinion of her is she is an attention seeking , one dimensional , trouble causing, English hating numpty. That's my view of her so what?

I have to agree, nothing against the Scots in general but she is without doubt the worst kind of politician. Having spoken widely to several people during the first referendum and now since this latest referendum announcement I can safely say her feeling about the English are pretty much reciprocated.

 

[pee dubya]

Spain have said they will veto any attempt for an independent Scotland still being in the EU.

That's that then.

That's not true.

 

[blueinsa]

That's not true.

That is true. An independent Scotland will not be able to remain within the EU as they will veto it. By all means apply to join they have said but they will not agree to a newly independent nation just staying in because it gives a green light to the Catalans.

 

[Magicpole]

That is true. An independent Scotland will not be able to remain within the EU as they will veto it. By all means apply to join they have said but they will not agree to a newly independent nation just staying in because it gives a green light to the Catalans.

Just been on BBC

The overwhelming majority would welcome Scotland.

"They will be welcomed with open arms"

Spain will not be allowed to derail it. They might want to, but I want a weekend away with Angelina, my money us in neither coming true.

The report will be repeated on BBC all day channel. Check it out if you want to see how the EU are actually feeling.

 

[TCIB]

I was thinking 'why would Spain veto it' but yeah the Catalan thing, makes perfect sense.

So really it was always a non starter, why did she even bother with all this nonsense then, argh bloody politicians!

Just out of interest how much do we reckon Scotland would have to pay if it was to stay in the EU on a weekly basis?

 

[Tanzeylee]

I'm 6ft12 and all scots are hard as fuck, we do all the fighting" (copyright magicpole

That was a tongue in cheek retort to us being called fodder.

I have never said I or all Scots are hard as fuck either.

You are assuming that we will be bankrupt and they will take the oil.

Where dud that actually come from? Who said it and when?

You've mentioned the first part about doing all the fighting a few times so yes you have some cheek
Yes I am only assuming it but you're not gonna survive with just fish
Like I said I either read it somewhere or just dreamt (I do have weird dreams)