Suella Braverman - sacked as Home Secretary (p394)

[yerwot?]

It was the arrogance of politicians mate, some posters do it on here they try to smear because you don't vote or think the way that they do.

Corbyn had his chance but Corbyn fans would disagree, they'd have had him in the hot seat until the man with the scythe came for him. Starmers biggest threat is from his own party, the reason the tories have been in so long is because labour have been so shit.

plus the vitriolic murdoch media harvesting the floating sheep, the sun had 184 headlined personal attacks on corbyn, as well as carpet-bombing the EU

 

[metalblue]

It was the arrogance of politicians mate, some posters do it on here they try to smear because you don't vote or think the way that they do.

Corbyn had his chance but Corbyn fans would disagree, they'd have had him in the hot seat until the man with the scythe came for him. Starmers biggest threat is from his own party, the reason the tories have been in so long is because labour have been so shit.

The left have, for as long as I can remember, had so many misaligned churches of thought that has split the left vote which has let the tories in time and time again.

Starmer’s problem is he doesn’t have any money to do things that would appeal to the left nor the levers to really raise it. He needs at least 2 terms but can Labour resist tearing itself apart long enough to give him that?

 

[metalblue]

plus the vitriolic murdoch media harvesting the floating sheep, the sun had 184 headlined personal attacks on corbyn, as well as carpet-bombing the EU

The power of the papers has surely waned in this day and age?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I’m not convinced the Tory party will exist in the past… unless the Labour Party want to exist in the centre for eternity?

100% out next election which is why having Cameron in is smart. Hopefully the current government can start to clear up some of the mess before a changing of government. Look on the bright side we’ve got rid of a highly divisive figure and replaced her with someone who doesn’t want to mine the English Channel.

If they lose seats to Reform UK and Lib Dems, they might. The Tory party isn't just unfit for government it's unfit for opposition. Damaged and dying brands can't always be refreshed.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

The power of the papers has surely waned in this day and age?

You'd think, but then TV does its best to keep them relevant. Every news and current affairs ends up being driven by what's in the papers, and increasingly nowadays, what's on Twitter. So you don't have to buy or engage in these things to find them infiltrating the things you do.

 

[metalblue]

If they lose seats to Reform UK and Lib Dems, they might. The Tory party isn't just unfit for government it's unfit for opposition. Damaged and dying brands can't always be refreshed.

They need a reboot for sure mate. Labour have shown how you can move from landslide defeat to landslide win. Although helped by an incompetent government which I don’t expect Labour to be.

 

[BlueHammer85]

This has always been about getting a gig on GB News

I'm convinced she'll get a slot.

 

[KS55]

The left have, for as long as I can remember, had so many misaligned churches of thought that has split the left vote which has let the tories in time and time again.

Starmer’s problem is he doesn’t have any money to do things that would appeal to the left nor the levers to really raise it. He needs at least 2 terms but can Labour resist tearing itself apart long enough to give him that?

Optimistic. Starmer would need 10 terms: he is a man who is unable to make decisions. He will get in and do nothing of note.
He was useless as DPP.

 

[dave_blue12]

Own original thought.

We earn money from work, pay tax. Buy stuff, they pay tax, they buy stuff, pay tax etc etc. Within 19 transactions the government has taken 98.5% of that money.

I understand that the government regulates the flow of money, it was the only difference between communism and capitalism being time that interested me.

 

[mexico1970]

plus the vitriolic murdoch media harvesting the floating sheep, the sun had 184 headlined personal attacks on corbyn, as well as carpet-bombing the EU

I stated that the remain camp stooped as low as the leave camp, every day calling people stupid and thick.

If they would have played it clean they'd have won.