Suella Braverman - sacked as Home Secretary (p394)

[west didsblue]

To my mind, this is Sunak figuring out the Government needs to be more 'left' (in Tory terms) to attract moderate voters, especially those in prosperous southern areas.

It's a gamble because the populist right is so strong in his party (especially at the grass-roots level, given that most members are septuagenarian UKIP types) that it could shatter the Conservative Party 'coalition' completely. Voters tend not to support parties that are engaged in civil war.

Sunak is showing unexpected strength here. I didn't think he had the bottle. However, his party may well now smash itself. Will some desert, either to Reform or to some sort of new, populist party?

I think it’s more desperation than strength.

 

[mexico1970]

He was a remainer. The vote wasn’t really foreign policy in the true sense more to put the internal debate to bed, he never expected to lose - he never should have. Brexit wasn’t even lost because we had a vote (although the wisdom to ask us to vote on monumental decisions is very questionable) but rather because remain got dragged in to leaves orbit. The EU costs us £x million, no it doesn’t it only costs us £y million. The vote was won or lost on this. Remain should have said for the money we get and said it loud and proud.

We’re not generally a radical group of people on this fair isle and remain grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory.

We would have still been in the EU if the sneering bastards running the remain campaign didn't stoop to jingoism like leave.

When I saw that runt on the boat Geldof putting the v's up and the constant slurs from remain I had a feeling my vote was going to be wasted.

 

[metalblue]

And just like Cameron they belong in the past.

Although the Conservative Party will soon exist only in history books, so perhaps it's fitting that Rishi has one last tour of his Tory supergroup.

I’m not convinced the Tory party will exist in the past… unless the Labour Party want to exist in the centre for eternity?

100% out next election which is why having Cameron in is smart. Hopefully the current government can start to clear up some of the mess before a changing of government. Look on the bright side we’ve got rid of a highly divisive figure and replaced her with someone who doesn’t want to mine the English Channel.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Haha. Facist. That's the biggest laugh I'll get this week

She’s now been sacked twice for major breaches of the ministerial code. That on its own should finish her political career.

It seems those that want to stop the boats etc. don’t care about codes or laws.

 

[TinFoilHat]

To my mind, this is Sunak figuring out the Government needs to be more 'left' (in Tory terms) to attract moderate voters, especially those in prosperous southern areas.

It's a gamble because the populist right is so strong in his party (especially at the grass-roots level, given that most members are septuagenarian UKIP types) that it could shatter the Conservative Party 'coalition' completely. Voters tend not to support parties that are engaged in civil war.

Sunak is showing unexpected strength here. I didn't think he had the bottle. However, his party may well now smash itself. Will some desert, either to Reform or to some sort of new, populist party?

Poundland Hitler and Braun of Reform will be running their campaign on their talk TV show from today.

 

[metalblue]

We would have still been in the EU if the sneering bastards running the remain campaign didn't stoop to jingoism like leave.

When I saw that runt on the boat Geldof putting the v's up and the constant slurs from remain I had a feeling my vote was going to be wasted.

They felt so sure they’d win. May was the same when she had her first run with corbyn… maybe minus the V’s…thought no one would vote for him so she didn’t campaign. Nearly lost it.

 

[metalblue]

Brexit was won on one theme: immigration.

There was always going to be a section who wanted out of the EU come what may. Brexit wasn’t decided by that group.

 

[dave_blue12]

Everything in this country is smoke and mirrors. If I said “let’s become communists” then, aside from @Rascal I’d probably get a lot of negative answers but the reality is every single penny we earn eventually goes to the state. Every single penny. The only difference between capitalism and communism is time.

A very strange take. Is this a quote or your own original thought?

 

[Mon Autre]

So when a conservative, does a conservative thing, they get flinged out. Makes me laugh when people opine how right wing of a government they are.

You think it's the job of a conservative home secretary to confect a public feud with the Met police and incite a baying mob to start kicking off at the Cenotaph on armistice Day?

Admit it, you're just annoyed cos she a bit fash and you like that.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Ok, thanks Denis for again not answering the question I asked.

Hope you are well.

FFS!
No he isn’t accountable directly to the commons.
He can be called to answer questions in the Lords.
There is nothing unusual about this.
You seem surprisingly ignorant of U.K. constitutional procedures.