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paphos-mcfc said:
many often do and they think their loved ones would be better without them.
some suicides see it as a selfless act.
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many often do and they think their loved ones would be better without them.
some suicides see it as a selfless act.
kaz7
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paphos-mcfc said:karen7 said:paphos-mcfc said:I have experienced and dealt with several suicides to which i will not go into detail. From the majority that I have been involved with and dealt with, I stand my ground to say they were selfish. And those who think I am naive can think again.
We all have different views but take it from someone who has literally stood on the edge of a cliff,it comes from desperation and not selfishness
And at that particular time, you never once thought of your family or loved ones?
No,i remember screaming in my head and wanting it to stop.You are looking at it from a completely clear,rational mind,clinical depression is not like that at all,it is dark and all feels hopeless to the point that there is no point carrying on.
johnny on the spot
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Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain.
Above is among the best observations I've read on suicide. Everybody has a limit.
johnmc
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johnny on the spot said:Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain.
Above is among the best observations I've read on suicide. Everybody has a limit.
I'd agree. People commenting on it (including me) who have never been in that situation can't, understandably I suppose, comprehend what it's like to even contemplate it. Touch wood but I don't know what's around the corner. Could be me one day.
kippaxkid74
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karen7 said:paphos-mcfc said:karen7 said:We all have different views but take it from someone who has literally stood on the edge of a cliff,it comes from desperation and not selfishness
And at that particular time, you never once thought of your family or loved ones?
No,i remember screaming in my head and wanting it to stop.You are looking at it from a completely clear,rational mind,clinical depression is not like that at all,it is dark and all feels hopeless to the point that there is no point carrying on.
i'm sorry you've been through that, but i totally agree with you... and sometimes you think your family will be better off without you, and despite your love for them you just can't cope with life... it can feel the only way - and people who then call that person selfish have no idea what depression and life feelings can feel like when things get too much and they rot away, every day is pain and anguish, and you keep going cos you keep trying to make it better, but it just gets worse, til you just need to escape it - and in that state your mind truly feels its the best and only way to do that :(
johnny on the spot said:Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain.
Above is among the best observations I've read on suicide. Everybody has a limit.
Yep, that's it.
and i know what i'm on about :(
Bill Walker
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Gaylord du Bois said:Cheers HP. Her legacy mate is my sense of humour.Hamann Pineapple said:Gaylord du Bois said:My mum took her own life at the age of 44, two weeks short of my 27th birthday.
I found it very hard to deal with at the time and could not understand why the fuck she'd been so fuckin selfish and weak. For some time after I'd speak about it as an act of cowardice purely because I just couldn't get my head around why she'd bail out on us all.
I've since understood why it happened and how low she must've felt within herself to take her to that desperate place.
It's hard for me to put any of it into words to be honest but one thing I will say is if I (and others)were more aware of what she was going through at that time then I'm pretty sure her death could've been prevented.
She never actually went down as a suicide hers was an open verdict due to there being no suicide note.
Today would've been her 67th birthday.
Bloody Hell mate, I can't even begin to imagine how you would deal with something like that. If nothing else, it must be character building as you are one of the funniest posters on here.
She could work a room, acid tongue and sharp as a tack. Often described as vivacious, stunning etc. At her funeral there was as many husbands crying as there were the wives.(although I tried not to read to much into that)
Thats very sad mate, I feel for you.
Bigga
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johnny on the spot said:Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain.
Above is among the best observations I've read on suicide. Everybody has a limit.
It's funny cos I have jumped 7 pages to reply in this thread, mainly because my heartbeat elevated with resurgent memories of my Darkest Days and I wished not to allow those memories back in. But I digress...
I quoted you as I was about to write that I can look at my right hand and know that the knuckles broken in it are a testament to me wanting to break the cycle of Dark Thoughts that swirled within me, at the time.
Thrice, have I attempted Death, twice from which my stomach was pumped and the other, I simply awoke from my attempt.
The broken knuckles were an attempt to distract my brain from focussing on suicide. It was a 'Red Rage' depression where the Anger Bubble threatened to engulf me, yet again, and I wanted to change things badly, so trying to punch through the solid wall, for me, was like trying to break the Bubble.
Of course, here, I still am...