TinFoilHat
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I wish someone on Newscast would ask Tory K what the conditions were for the Mone interview rather than protect their mate.
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Fiftyyearsandcounting
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She kept repeating "Lying is not against the law". Perjury?
Alan Harper's Tash
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In court yes. Fraud is also lying.She kept repeating "Lying is not against the law". Perjury?
MillionMilesAway
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She kept repeating "Lying is not against the law". Perjury?
I thought she was saying "lying to the media is not against the law".
Which is more true, but goes poorly when combined with "but we weren't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes".
BrianW
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It depends on the circumstances.
Telling your missus that you're going to the Blue Bell when you're actually going to the Coach and Horses is not illegal.
In many commercial circumstances, not least in the procurement of contracts, lying is potentially illegal. You really need the full facts, and to be a commercial lawyer, to be sure.
Telling your missus that you're going to the Blue Bell when you're actually going to the Coach and Horses is not illegal.
In many commercial circumstances, not least in the procurement of contracts, lying is potentially illegal. You really need the full facts, and to be a commercial lawyer, to be sure.
law74
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What puzzles me about this is that it has been public knowledge for months, but seems to have risen in prominence greatly in the past few days.I thought she was saying "lying to the media is not against the law".
Which is more true, but goes poorly when combined with "but we weren't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes".
Why has it blown up?
MillionMilesAway
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What puzzles me about this is that it has been public knowledge for months, but seems to have risen in prominence greatly in the past few days.
Why has it blown up?
Don't know for certain, but the govt are suing to get 120m back from them - maybe they wanted to get their side out before that happens.
It doesn't seem like it's worked well!
Because they've come out and admitted lying. I think they admitted a few weeks ago, via lawyers, but they've gone into full fightback mode.What puzzles me about this is that it has been public knowledge for months, but seems to have risen in prominence greatly in the past few days.
Why has it blown up?
I assume the investigations going on behind the scenes had reached a point where they realised it wasn't going away, and they've decided to admit to lying to the media, but go into a combative mode with the Government in the hope that: either the snakes all devour one another and they become a sideshow in a bigger scandal; or they can claim they're simply being scapegoated by more powerful people; or the other Tories try to close ranks around it to save their own skins, and they get let off.
law74
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Don't know for certain, but the govt are suing to get 120m back from them - maybe they wanted to get their side out before that happens.
It doesn't seem like it's worked well!
Cheers.Because they've come out and admitted lying. I think they admitted a few weeks ago, via lawyers, but they've gone into full fightback mode.
I assume the investigations going on behind the scenes had reached a point where they realised it wasn't going away, and they've decided to admit to lying to the media, but go into a combative mode with the Government in the hope that: either the snakes all devour one another and they become a sideshow in a bigger scandal; or they can claim they're simply being scapegoated by more powerful people; or the other Tories try to close ranks around it to save their own skins, and they get let off.
I had been raising it on social media discussions on various outlets, but was thinking that it (& a LOT of others) had been brushed under the carpet and today it seems to be a "hot topic"