Sunderland post match thread

Let's take one BIG positive from tonight - Sunderland dropped 2 more points they could have had and are on their way to being relegated - thank f*ck.
 
Similar performance and result against Sunderland at home in the title winning season but with an extra team fighting for top spot. Sadly it is extremely difficult to win this season. Still there are points to play for and a top 3 finish is still not secure,
 
Cobwebcat said:
The reason it has gone wrong is our strikers have stopped scoring....all of them. There is too much pressure on our midfielders to do their job and the strikers job.

I really believe that's it.
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It's a point that I mentioned as well tonight. Never mind stopped scoring, they've stopped even getting into positions and having shots.
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
Clearly swimming against the tide here but:
- I think we'll win the league, and,
- I like and rate Pelligrini

Mitigating circumstances for our patchiness this season (injuries and the refusal to pay for Mangala at Xmas) but I think the future is pretty bright
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Not this year for sure and certain.

Its over as the Big O once said.

Its not the mathematics which says we still can its the mindset of this group in crunch games.

Talent , Skill etc sure bit not the mental edge which is what is required.

I like alot of what MP is striving to do but I cannot convince myself he is a long term manager at this club.

You need a manager that the players will die for no matter their abilities.

I don't think our players will go to the well and back for MP.

i hope he proves me wrong and more importantly I hope our players do next year for sure.
 
Blue Is the Opposite of Blue said:
Tonight was the final nail in what has been a terrible end to the season.

As little as two months ago there was talk of a quadruple - but a lack of belief, a removal of all urgency and a plague of muscle injuries have ended this season for good now. Aguero wasn't fit and hasn't been since Spurs away (our last fantastic performance), Negredo's shoulder has been in an invisible sling since the League Cup semi-final and Zabaleta's very gradual tiredness has come about because Richards isn't fit enough. All of this has contributed to a very thin squad getting exactly what it was coming to it: diminuendo.

But that's not all. I've stood by him all season when the arrows have been flying towards him, but Pellegrini got it wrong tonight and has taken our title chances down with him. Leaving Silva out tonight wasn't down to Pellegrini just needing to learn about English football, it was down to him underestimating Sunderland and nothing more. Silva has been our best player for the best part of 6 weeks now - perhaps even the best part of 3 years if you want to look at the bigger picture - but he was left out of the picture completely. And no surprise, as sure as night follows day, a City team without Silva looked like a bunch of strangers in a silent room.

We were unlucky not to win at the very end of the game - and had Nasri's chance not been spooned over the bar from an almost unforgivable distance we'd be back on course for the title - but between minute number 3 and minute number 87 we were nowhere to be found. Kompany wasn't fit, Nasri was anonymous, Milner was a disaster, Aguero was unfit, Negredo was average and Zabaleta, understandably, looked knackered. All key players, all not ready for the fight for one reason or another.

I'm struggling to give a shit about how the season will pan out from this point on- as long as we finish in the top 3, which I'm sure we can, I won't be arsed either way. I just can't wait for the season to end, for the World Cup to start, and for the misery and depleted nature of this season's finale to become optimism and expectancy. I'm sick to the back teeth of watching injured, unfit players get thrown together because our squad either isn't big enough or our fitness experts are terrible at their jobs.

Fight to the end? Nah, I'd rather not waste my energy if the players don't want to.
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Out of curiosity, since Silva was left out of the squad due to injury, how exactly would you have explained to the player that you want him to play despite not being fit? How exactly was Pellegrini meant to handle that differently?

Not exactly bailing MP out of some serious fallibility from today's game, but playing god and healing the wounded certainly aren't part of my expectations for him.
 
The crowd was shite tonight. A game we needed to win and there was nothing. They scored with ten minutes to go and it emptied. Those of you that left, you are a disgrace.
 
Henry Chinaski said:
The crowd was shite tonight. A game we needed to win and there was nothing. They scored with ten minutes to go and it emptied. Those of you that left, you are a disgrace.
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well said. the atmosphere is becoming quite embarrassing
 
super_city_si said:
Blue Is the Opposite of Blue said:
Tonight was the final nail in what has been a terrible end to the season.

As little as two months ago there was talk of a quadruple - but a lack of belief, a removal of all urgency and a plague of muscle injuries have ended this season for good now. Aguero wasn't fit and hasn't been since Spurs away (our last fantastic performance), Negredo's shoulder has been in an invisible sling since the League Cup semi-final and Zabaleta's very gradual tiredness has come about because Richards isn't fit enough. All of this has contributed to a very thin squad getting exactly what it was coming to it: diminuendo.

But that's not all. I've stood by him all season when the arrows have been flying towards him, but Pellegrini got it wrong tonight and has taken our title chances down with him. Leaving Silva out tonight wasn't down to Pellegrini just needing to learn about English football, it was down to him underestimating Sunderland and nothing more. Silva has been our best player for the best part of 6 weeks now - perhaps even the best part of 3 years if you want to look at the bigger picture - but he was left out of the picture completely. And no surprise, as sure as night follows day, a City team without Silva looked like a bunch of strangers in a silent room.

We were unlucky not to win at the very end of the game - and had Nasri's chance not been spooned over the bar from an almost unforgivable distance we'd be back on course for the title - but between minute number 3 and minute number 87 we were nowhere to be found. Kompany wasn't fit, Nasri was anonymous, Milner was a disaster, Aguero was unfit, Negredo was average and Zabaleta, understandably, looked knackered. All key players, all not ready for the fight for one reason or another.

I'm struggling to give a shit about how the season will pan out from this point on- as long as we finish in the top 3, which I'm sure we can, I won't be arsed either way. I just can't wait for the season to end, for the World Cup to start, and for the misery and depleted nature of this season's finale to become optimism and expectancy. I'm sick to the back teeth of watching injured, unfit players get thrown together because our squad either isn't big enough or our fitness experts are terrible at their jobs.

Fight to the end? Nah, I'd rather not waste my energy if the players don't want to.
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I think Silva was injured? Pellegrini certainly said he was in a pre match interview so he had no option to pick him. But I agree wiht the rest.
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I agree the season's dead now but nip over to the official club site( mcfc.co)and read Pelligrini's after match comments they beggar belief. Apparently Sunderland are a difficult team to play after the Liverpool game and the players aren't physically tired they're mentally tired --thank fuck they've not got to go to work in the morning the poor darlings aaaarrrrggghhhh !
 
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