Fair enough, I hope you say that to the many city fans who appear to dismiss the champions league sight unseen, but I respect everyone's opinion I just think the league cup A) sort of makes you forget about the FA Cup (our performances in that tournament have been wretched for 2/3 years) and B) Massively wears out your team before christmas, particularly if you play full strength or close to it starting 11's in an effort to win it. not arrogance pragmatism. jeopardising pursuit of two major trophies for a minor one makes no sense to me. If the kids get us to the semis then you can start playing stronger teams.