Swansea (a) Post Match Thread

Danamy said:
I can't believe you're still beating that drum, just let go, he's gone, get over it.

Pour yourself a drink, relax and enjoy......if it makes you feel better you were right all along, i can tell you're the type that needs a cuddle every now and again.

I did find the bit where you tagged your partner in the post a bit embarrassing though

Enjoy the summer ;-)
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FYI, my partner is a real life female from who I get all the cuddles I need and not someone on an internet forum I've never met or spoken to. If anyone is embarrassing it's you who has jumped into an exchange (not started by me btw) without first reading what led up to my last post on the matter, but I suppose that's par for the course for you when it suits your inane narrative.

It kills you that you have such a high opinion of yourself, but missed so many obvious and basic football pointers at the time when others whose opinions you don't rate called it correct from the get go regarding Pellegrini. This is an internet forum where fans of Manchester City come to vent and air their views and as such I did just that in a respectful manner toward our manager and if you think I did otherwise prove it and show me where. I was one of many who gave an opinion based solely on what I could see happening in front of me, no crystal balls or soothsaying abilities were needed just a rudimentary knowledge of football.

I've never called Pellegrini by any disrespectful names to warrant the abuse I got, so where were you then when I and others would have appreciated your intervention? Probably sniggering along with the pack eh? Those who agreed with you were mostly left to terrorise this forum on your watch and those who didn't were driven away or made to feel like pariah's with no protection whatsoever. So where was your concern then?

I mentioned @Shaelumstash because he was mentioned by the respondent to my post not because I need an orchestrated army behind me like others did when terrorising anyone who dared criticise Pellegrini. I'm the same on here as I am in real life fella, I'm not a shithouse who can't fight his own battles and needs a gang behind him. This is the truth of the matter as you sit there trying to curry favour with those who shall remain nameless with your crap inane attempt at chest beating, hairy chested, he-man humour.

Soz mate, your attempt at banter has fallen flat on its arse much the same as your take on the early Pellegrini years. It's not my fault, so don't take it out on me and if you have nothing interesting or sensible to say, please don't labour me with your pathetic diatribe. I'm just not interested dude.

You enjoy your summer too, you hear........
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
The match was abysmal, if anything it summed up our whole season. I find it astonishing that still since the takeover whenever we have a "crunch" match, last game of the season/final etc we can never have an easy game and somehow we always always make hard work of it. Swansea made several changes and had nothing to play for yet our midfield was overrun and we could have easily lost the game.
A big clear out is needed and Navas would be my first casualty, he is shocking.
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I'll agree that we were shocking, and also complacent. However, our midfield was not overrun, and Navas (along with the two Ferns) is one of the chief reasons we have managed to hang on to 4th place. Whilst Kun, Ya Ya and Kolarov have downed tools, he's pulled his tripe out and hardly ever gives the ball away. Admittedly his final ball is invariably gash, not that he's ever got anything to aim at, but if ever I had to chose between Navas and the one who can't run or kick a ball properly and falls down every time he's touched, I'd take Navas thanks
 
Dribble said:
FYI, my partner is a real life female from who I get all the cuddles I need and not someone on an internet forum I've never met or spoken to. If anyone is embarrassing it's you who has jumped into an exchange (not started by me btw) without first reading what led up to my last post on the matter, but I suppose that's par for the course for you when it suits your inane narrative.

It kills you that you have such a high opinion of yourself, but missed so many obvious and basic football pointers at the time when others whose opinions you don't rate called it correct from the get go regarding Pellegrini. This is an internet forum where fans of Manchester City come to vent and air their views and as such I did just that in a respectful manner toward our manager and if you think I did otherwise prove it and show me where. I was one of many who gave an opinion based solely on what I could see happening in front of me, no crystal balls or soothsaying abilities were needed just a rudimentary knowledge of football.

I've never called Pellegrini by any disrespectful names to warrant the abuse I got, so where were you then when I and others would have appreciated your intervention? Probably sniggering along with the pack eh? Those who agreed with you were mostly left to terrorise this forum on your watch and those who didn't were driven away or made to feel like pariah's with no protection whatsoever. So where was your concern then?

I mentioned @Shaelumstash because he was mentioned by the respondent to my post not because I need an orchestrated army behind me like others did when terrorising anyone who dared criticise Pellegrini. I'm the same on here as I am in real life fella, I'm not a shithouse who can't fight his own battles and needs a gang behind him. This is the truth of the matter as you sit there trying to curry favour with those who shall remain nameless with your crap inane attempt at chest beating, hairy chested, he-man humour.

Soz mate, your attempt at banter has fallen flat on its arse much the same as your take on the early Pellegrini years. It's not my fault, so don't take it out on me and if you have nothing interesting or sensible to say, please don't labour me with your pathetic diatribe. I'm just not interested dude.

You enjoy your summer too, you hear........
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I'm amazed you can bear to keep the faith with such a badly run, nepotistic, banana republic of a forum........
 
Dribble said:
FYI, my partner is a real life female from who I get all the cuddles I need and not someone on an internet forum I've never met or spoken to. If anyone is embarrassing it's you who has jumped into an exchange (not started by me btw) without first reading what led up to my last post on the matter, but I suppose that's par for the course for you when it suits your inane narrative.

It kills you that you have such a high opinion of yourself, but missed so many obvious and basic football pointers at the time when others whose opinions you don't rate called it correct from the get go regarding Pellegrini. This is an internet forum where fans of Manchester City come to vent and air their views and as such I did just that in a respectful manner toward our manager and if you think I did otherwise prove it and show me where. I was one of many who gave an opinion based solely on what I could see happening in front of me, no crystal balls or soothsaying abilities were needed just a rudimentary knowledge of football.

I've never called Pellegrini by any disrespectful names to warrant the abuse I got, so where were you then when I and others would have appreciated your intervention? Probably sniggering along with the pack eh? Those who agreed with you were mostly left to terrorise this forum on your watch and those who didn't were driven away or made to feel like pariah's with no protection whatsoever. So where was your concern then?

I mentioned @Shaelumstash because he was mentioned by the respondent to my post not because I need an orchestrated army behind me like others did when terrorising anyone who dared criticise Pellegrini. I'm the same on here as I am in real life fella, I'm not a shithouse who can't fight his own battles and needs a gang behind him. This is the truth of the matter as you sit there trying to curry favour with those who shall remain nameless with your crap inane attempt at chest beating, hairy chested, he-man humour.

Soz mate, your attempt at banter has fallen flat on its arse much the same as your take on the early Pellegrini years. It's not my fault, so don't take it out on me and if you have nothing interesting or sensible to say, please don't labour me with your pathetic diatribe. I'm just not interested dude.

You enjoy your summer too, you hear........
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Once more for those that didn't see it last night...........

Dribble said:
After a summer of rest, I think most fans will take stock and see nothing is guaranteed in this league and even Guardiola will need time. The few who jump on his case at the first draw or defeat will be an irrelevance imo.....
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Given you have constantly insisted Pellegrini has had the best squad in the league by some distance and has hugely underachieved, why the complete about turn and dumbing down of expectations for a manager who is clearly a step up from Pellegrini and will no doubt benefit from a huge summer of spending?

Unlike last night, i dont need a 1000 word answer going off on a tangent accusing the world of bullying you and how you knew after the first game he was crap and how we won what we did with Mancini's squad etc, just a straight up answer to a straight up question?

Or is it a case that a draw here and a defeat there was never a luxury you where ever going to afford Pellegrini for reasons known to yourself?
 
Dribble said:
And there you go reverting to the pack mentality type answering for each other.....

Didn't take long for you to flip flop in the opposite direction again did it? Fuckin sad :-)
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I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I've never had any interaction with Danamy of any kind on here, and until about 15 minutes ago when he made his post, I could no more have told you his standpoint on Pellegrini than I could have surmised King Leopold the 2nd of Belgium's views on whether his hydrangeas should be watered by hand or with a sprinkler.....
 
blueinsa said:
Or is it a case that a draw here and a defeat there was never a luxury you where ever going to afford Pellegrini for reasons known to yourself?
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Think that is a couple of times you have used that phrase. Totally disingenuous imo. I think you know full well that supporters didn't turn against Pellegrini merely because of "a draw here and a defeat there."
 
Navas has been half decent in recent games, so it's easy to associate him with helping us to stay in the top 4, but at the same time, the season is 38 games long and a match on day 1 has as much bearing as the final day. A great number of our players have gone missing at times this season, Navas included - some more than others, but overall it's reflected in our final league position.

By our historic standards, many of the players we have today are head and shoulders above the majority we've ever head, but when we compare ourselves to Real, Bayern or Barca at least half of our players are a good way behind both in ability and application.

We've bought ourselves into a very good position as a club - regular CL, attractive to top players and managers, great stadium and a rapidly growing fan base, but the real work's only just begun. If we're to ever be considered a consistent domestic and CL contender, there has to be a merciless work ethos as well as top talent.

We're fragile, and we need to become a machine. The statesman like behaviour of Pellegrini was reflected in our team performances - far too pedestrian.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
Think that is a couple of times you have used that phrase. Totally disingenuous imo. I think you know full well that supporters didn't turn against Pellegrini merely because of "a draw here and a defeat there."
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Its not because the poster I'm addressing has made it clear a couple of hundred times at least over the last 3 years that he knew Pellegrini was crap after the first game against Newcastle which we won 4-0.

Given his insistence on that, plus the fact he claims he has always had the best squad, one that Pep will take over and strengthen then the question I've asked is more than fair imo.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
Think that is a couple of times you have used that phrase. Totally disingenuous imo. I think you know full well that supporters didn't turn against Pellegrini merely because of "a draw here and a defeat there."
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As far as I can tell they didn't turn against Pellegrini at all most fans I've met at games have thought he' had done as much as he could and were looking forward to Pep replacing him, but turn against him, no not that I ever noticed and as an Etihad nomad I've sat in quite a few parts of the ground.
 
It wasn't a draw here and there. It was a consistent inability to beat any of the top 7 teams and a dogged insistence on playing some players who were consistently not delivering.
That's 12 games without a win. We lost 10 games and drew 9 - that's precisely half our games with dropped points. 15 points behind the leaders.
The fact that other teams also didn't do very well is cold comfort, it's still a large failing on our part.

We talk about injuries and CL presence, but that's precisely why we're supposed to have strength in depth. That strength in depth was demonstrably a myth this season as evidenced in the results.

I'm not blaming Pellegrini for it all, as a large number of players need to look at themselves for their part in events this season, but equally, he's the man at the helm and takes his fair percentage of the blame. Equally, by that reckoning, those above Pellegrini also need to take their share of responsibility too. If it's truly a collaborative effort from top to bottom, then we've failed in multiple areas and at multiple levels.
In many ways, I think a lot of fans had SOME sympathy for Pellegrini when they saw the level of commitment from some players. We might not like his tactics or seemingly favouritism towards some players, but we could also see that some players were strolling through games - for which there's no excuse.

Thankfully, things weren't as bad as they could have been and we can put this season down to an uninspiring one and move on, but if there's a repeat of it, we need to start looking further up the ladder for changes.
 
blueparrot said:
As far as I can tell they didn't turn against Pellegrini at all most fans I've met at games have thought he' had done as much as he could and were looking forward to Pep replacing him, but turn against him, no not that I ever noticed and as an Etihad nomad I've sat in quite a few parts of the ground.
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I didn't necessarily mean the support turned against him totally or even generally, just talking about those who did turn against him, whether that be a minority, majority or anything in between. I suppose it depends on your definition of "turn against" but certainly most supporters I know couldn't wait for his time to end, particularly over the last 6 months where even those I know who were very supportive of him got to the stage where they had had enough of him. At matches it felt odd to me for a lot of this season. Certainly plenty around me at home matches were happy to openly criticise him but I also think there has been a lot of indifference towards him and even relative indifference to what is going on on the pitch. My opinion is that much like he kept his job for an extra year due to the impending arrival of Pep, he also got away with a hell of a lot less grief from supporters than he wouldn't have done.
 
Great performance and the end of a great great manager. A very v
FantasyIreland said:
Second thoughts Barney?
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I posted this in the Well done boss thread

Really sad ending to the best manager in our history, the best manager in the whole wide world over these past three years. A very very sad time to be a blue (in fact probably the saddest of my last 43 years supporting the club) tears in my eyes as I write this. He should never have been replaced and deserved another three year contract. We will all regret getting rid of him as he takes another premier league to the title and champions league history. No matter what happens in the future he will be remembered as greater than Mercer. God speed Manuel and I will never ever forgot you ever xx
 
come-on-barney said:
Great performance and the end of a great great manager. A very v


I posted this in the Well done boss thread

Really sad ending to the best manager in our history, the best manager in the whole wide world over these past three years. A very very sad time to be a blue (in fact probably the saddest of my last 43 years supporting the club) tears in my eyes as I write this. He should never have been replaced and deserved another three year contract. We will all regret getting rid of him as he takes another premier league to the title and champions league history. No matter what happens in the future he will be remembered as greater than Mercer. God speed Manuel and I will never ever forgot you ever xx
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A beautiful post. Brought a tear to my eye. What a sensitive man you are. God bless you sir, God bless.
 
I know the fans didn't turn against him.....I have been present when fans have turned against managers and players and trust me you know about it! From his appointment everyone knew he was keeping the seat warm for Pepe. In his first season we played some great football and won two trophies but we almost blew both of them.The cup final we were terrible for most of the game against Sunderland until two world class strikes in as many minutes got us out of jail. In the league we had stuttered badly until he changed the tactics to what most of the fans were crying out for.That change of tactics and Liverpool imploding under the pressure meant we won the league.

I would say the man's public lack of charisma and rapport with the fan's meant many were indifferent towards him. Everyone thinks he is a nice man and a gentleman,which is true, but we have been going steadily backward under his management for two years. With the investment in players he should have done better but some of the players need to take a look at themselves too.

I think he will do a decent job somewhere else but he isn't at the level where we want to go which is the top team in Europe.
 
we all have a right to question the whole squad manager coaches and signings and a poor finish to the season but that's it (your view) people don't have to like it but its fair and that's it. but when you cross the line and start to kick off with a different view that's when you show your true colours. a debate should be not to show your anger just a view

for me pellegrini should have been sacked before christmas and a caretaker manager take over until the summer. but that's my view and I understand the others who say he stays and did a good job that's a debate and something to read and take in and understand what others think it gives you a better chance to change your mind if you like
 
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