Swedish Elections

[bluethrunthru]

I think the prospects of far right parties actually winning elections outright is limited, so it’s not a fear in that sense, but their relative popularity is a cause for concern nonetheless. We’ve seen them make significant gains in France, Germany, Italy, Austria, and now Sweden so it shouldn’t be easily dismissed.

But they will never win - as much as some people on here would love them too they can't - and when they get some gains they are "found out" and treated and behave accordingly - for example -

In the 2017 German federal elections the AfD won 12.6% of the vote and received 94 seats; this was the first time it had won seats in the Bundestag.[89][90] At a press conference held by AfD the day after the election, Petry said that she would participate in the Bundestag as an independent; she said she did this because extremist statements by some members made it impossible for AfD to function as a constructive opposition, and to make clear to voters that there is internal dissent in the AfD. She also said that she would be leaving the party at some future date.[91][92] Four members of the AfD in the Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania legislature also left the AfD to form their own group.[91]

 

[Ric]

Do you not accept some of this is a reaction to the terrorist actions all over Europe and North America?
Some people rightly or wrongly fear for their way of life.
Not everybody is happy with the levels of multi culturism being forced on them.
All major first world countries have taken in refugees and in places like Germany it has backfired with a substantial loss of life.
I have family who live in Frankfurt and Mainz and they have stated after recent events their life has been significantly changed by terrorist attacks.
Even the most liberal Germans are reacting against Germany's open door policies of recent years.

I accept that it’s partly a reaction to terrorism. I still maintain it’s a cause for concern though.

 

[TCIB]

Personally i feel this is a huge slam on the EU as it is and the mentality that prevails within it's corridors of influence/power. The original EU was a fantastic initiative, it has warped into something sinister for the elite few who idolize it with little if any proper thought for the consequences. If it was thought through then i can only logically assume the feelings of the electorate has been ignored.

You can evidence this with the Irish vote/ dutch vote (they didn't even get one) and others regarding policy that gave the EU huge power and economic leverage.

 

[arbabarshad]

Do you not accept some of this is a reaction to the terrorist actions all over Europe and North America?
Some people rightly or wrongly fear for their way of life.
Not everybody is happy with the levels of multi culturism being forced on them.
All major first world countries have taken in refugees and in places like Germany it has backfired with a substantial loss of life.
I have family who live in Frankfurt and Mainz and they have stated after recent events their life has been significantly changed by terrorist attacks.
Even the most liberal Germans are reacting against Germany's open door policies of recent years.

It most certainly is - unfortunately, western foreign policy over the past two decades has failed spectacularly and this is a direct result, probably not envisaged by the western governments.

 

[whp.blue]

I accept that it’s partly a reaction to terrorism. I still maintain it’s a cause for concern though.

Well perhaps the best way to combat the rise of the right wing parties is to tackle the terrorism.
Maybe the terrorists are of greater concern than the elected rightwingers.

 

[Ric]

Well perhaps the best way to combat the rise of the right wing parties is to tackle the terrorism.
Maybe the terrorists are of greater concern than the elected rightwingers.

Pretty sure they are already trying to tackle terrorism, tbh.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Do you not accept some of this is a reaction to the terrorist actions all over Europe and North America?
Some people rightly or wrongly fear for their way of life.
Not everybody is happy with the levels of multi culturism being forced on them.
All major first world countries have taken in refugees and in places like Germany it has backfired with a substantial loss of life.
I have family who live in Frankfurt and Mainz and they have stated after recent events their life has been significantly changed by terrorist attacks.
Even the most liberal Germans are reacting against Germany's open door policies of recent years.

I'd say a little but mostly that is latent racist fervour whipped up by right wing extremists - anyone with a sense of reason can understand that they are far far more likely to die or be harmed by illness, car accidents, plane crash or attacked and harmed by someone they know or are related to which is no way way terror related. Your chances of dying in a terror attack ate lower now than in 2004-06 and are dwarfed by the chance of it happening in the period 1986/88 - however some prey on peoples insecurities for their own political gains.

 

[robbieh]

The rise of the far right all over the Western world is a major cause for concern.

Agree totally. It might not be 1920s Germany but our world is becoming increasingly reactionary and this is not a good thing.

 

[whp.blue]

Pretty sure they are already trying to tackle terrorism, tbh.

How can a country like Germany be tackling terrorism when they threw open the doors to so called refugees and that has allowed known and active terrorist to enter their country unabated.
Some of which have already made terrorist attacks within its borders.
It remains to be seen how many more are now in Germany planning attacks.
Liberalism is not the way to fight terrorists sadly they just use it against you.

 

[bluethrunthru]

How can a country like Germany be tackling terrorism when they threw open the doors to so called refugees and that has allowed known and active terrorist to enter their country unabated.
Some of which have already made terrorist attacks within its borders.
It remains to be seen how many more are now in Germany planning attacks.
Liberalism is not the way to fight terrorists sadly they just use it against you.

You cannot beat terror by force and intolerance - hence the GFA.