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MillionMilesAway said:
I don't have a problem with anyone who thinks Shearer is the best PL-era striker, there's certainly evidence to back that up! Henry was a magnificent player to watch, in a great team.

Kane will in due course take the hattrick record, and will probably score more than Aguero - he's only about 40 behind, and is a lot younger. Aguero's 75 goals (or so) in Spain are a footnote which offer a better career total for completists! I'm not sure whether the Argentinian league should count as well.

The PL stat is just another manufactured stat for stats sake.
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Money For God's Sake?
 
domalino said:
It's really pointless to compare them.

When Jimmy Greaves was playing, there was on average 4 goals a game. Now there's about 2.7. He was playing 42 game league seasons but only playing once a week.

With Dixie Dean, things like the offside rule don't even exist, the quality of the football is incomparable, and most defensive tactics haven't even been invented yet.

Imagine how many Sergio or Shearer would get if he only had to play once a week, and every game had nearly 2x as many goals because defending was so much worse?

The reason people use "Premier League" stats is because 1992 is a pretty good marker for the beginning of this modern era of football. The offside rule gets close to its modern iteration, the pass back rule comes in, the European Cup becomes the CL and the PL is created which creates this huge influx of money at the top. The Bosman rule changes up transfers across Europe as well and everyone (except germany) settles on 38 games a season.

It's a good bookend for modern football, and comparing across the era's is an exercise in futility IMO.
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In Dean's time, the goalkeepers had much less protection than they do today.

Often, the‘keeper ended up in the back of the net with the ball in his hands after a challenge from the opponent's centre-forward, and the goal was allowed to stand.
 
Vienna_70 said:
In Dean's time, the goalkeepers had much less protection than they do today.

Often, the‘keeper ended up in the back of the net with the ball in his hands after a challenge from the opponent's centre-forward, and the goal was allowed to stand.
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Also the average height of the keeper was smaller and they didn't even have gloves.
 
waspish said:
Bet Jimmy Greaves didn’t have parked buses week in week out and playing against top tactical managers.
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Funnily enough, he did! The early 60s was when the 'catenaccio' system took off (mainly under Herrera at Inter but many other Italian teams were already using it) In fact Greaves spent less than a year at AC Milan before coming home (he couldn't handle the restrictions of the 'ritiro' system, which meant players had to prepare away from home with the squad for every game) but he still managed to score 9 goals in 12 games against the meanest defences on the planet, a better return per game than even his English record! Quite a lot of English clubs experimented with the 'libero' behind the back line, too but it never really took off here.. You're right, of course, English football has always been a bit 'gungo-ho' and it took the arrival of Wenger and the rest to shake things up tactically, as well as encouraging players to change from the technical/skills/conditioning points of view..
 
So the Boiled Bollock was asking this morning who England would have as a front three if Kane wasn't fit for the Euros.

A female Leicester fa rang in and said Sterling, Sancho and Abraham would be good with lots of pace and energy.

BB response was "No Rashford?? No Greenwood?? - Good grief" and cut her off.

No words needed
 
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