Talksport

[Malty]

It is a clear dive ffs !

Have you guys saying it's a penalty never played the game ?

Having your ankle touched like that does NOT cause you to go weak at both knees and fall to the ground.

Blatant cheating !

Every player in that situation would go down.

 

[dave_blue12]

Every player in that situation would go down.

I don't disagree. They are all cheats. My point is that it is a dive. Contact with one ankle does not cause anyone to collapse in the way Benteke did. Therefore he dived.

Difficult for the referee in real time but for anyone to say it's not a dive after reviewing the video is delusional or worse.

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

Its a pen imo. There is contact and it doesn't matter apparently if you go over easily unless of course you are Raheem Stirling and playing against Everton in the last minute where 3 points are at stake and the referee is a fucking bottler much like it is not a penalty when the player jumps unsighted with his back to block a cross and it clearly strikes him on the arm(elbow) (see Bournmouth v Newcastle) unless of course you are Raheem Stirling playing against Tottenham where 3 points are at stake and the referee is a fucking wanker. Co-incidence - I think not!

 

[Dave S]

Every player in that situation would go down.

That's the trouble with the game today. Full of cheating and feigning injury.

 

[BlueHammer85]

The contact was minimal, its not a none contact sport, its a foul in basketball but not necessarily in football, why is it irrelevant? The defender was doing everything to try and not make contact, Benteke had the slightest of touches and then he dived, I've been to london and you get knocked a lot harder than that going onto and off the tube, there would be bodies littered all over the place if people did what Benteke did. Also i have heard a lot more people say its not a penalty than it is, therefore it really isnt a stonewall penalty as you claimed. A stonewall is one where everyone agrees, even fans of the team its against.

are these people getting on and off the tube running at full speed ? it only takes the slightest clip of the ankle to send someone flying.

i totally agree Benteke made the most of it and dived... But Delaney unfortunately made a costly mistake clipping someones foot in the box, if he was near the ball then perhaps benefit of doubt could be given but he was miles away, It was a very rash challenge and he knew had committed a foul

 

[BlueMojito]

Anyone else hear the boiled gonad this morning say that he'd heard Bale would be coming to the "blue side of Manchester" if trannie stayed another 2 years at RM?

The dislike between the two of them is big enough to make Bale leave RM

Yes I heard him say Bale more likely to come to the blue half of Manchester. He also talked about USA refs using the training facilities at Ethiad, that he'd not seen but heard were impressive. Sounded like he was talking through gritted teeth.

 

[SWP's back]

so your admitting there is contact absolutely no where near the ball.... both players going at full speed, a knee into his left foot, that in itself is a foul - we will never know if enough to make him go down. But that's irrelevant for me.

You do realise the word contact is totally irrelevant? It's a contact sport.

Anyway, Andy Gray and Souness don't agree with you.

 

[SWP's back]

I agree, for me nailed on pen, he made a meal of the fall to the floor but still contact and a pen. Whether we would have got it is another story (prob not) but still a pen for me.

'Contact' has nothing to do with it. Check the laws of the game.

 

[SWP's back]

Every player in that situation would go down.

Aguero didn't in 2012.

 

[Phil1]

You do realise the word contact is totally irrelevant? It's a contact sport.

Anyway, Andy Gray and Souness don't agree with you.

Funnily enough, two players who had reputations as hard footballers whereas the likes of Lineker who are banging the penalty drum would happily fall over a packet of fucking salt and vinegar walkers to try and con the ref.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

are these people getting on and off the tube running at full speed ? it only takes the slightest clip of the ankle to send someone flying.

i totally agree Benteke made the most of it and dived... But Delaney unfortunately made a costly mistake clipping someones foot in the box, if he was near the ball then perhaps benefit of doubt could be given but he was miles away, It was a very rash challenge and he knew had committed a foul

Sometimes they are running at full pelt to make trains or tubes but stay on their feet.

Just because there is contact is doesnt mean its a penalty, I see you ignored the fact that football is a contact sport. You agree he dived and made the most of it. Where does it say clipping someone in the box is a penalty, in the rules? He didnt impede or obstruct him at all it was purely manufactured.

It was a rash challenge but he did everything he could not to make contact, which was minimal in anycase. Not a pen for me, mostly certainly not a stonewall pen as you described it. Dont think many teams would have been given that decision and if it was against West Ham, you'd be livid.

 

[Bozzie]

Not a penalty for me and it's not hard to see why Pardew was a bit shell-shocked particularly given the bizarre nature of the equaliser. That said, Delaney should have just stood him up because the chances of a player of Bentekes capabilities scoring from that position were slim. Managers must tear their hair out at defenders because almost all of them seem incapable of staying on their feet, I know they don't intend to get the man and Delaney looked like he was trying to avoid contact at the end, but by then he'd already made the wrong decision.

 

[waspish]

After looking at the slow motion replay for me it's a penalty. Or is contact not a penalty?

 

[andyhinch]

After looking at the slow motion replay for me it's a penalty. Or is contact not a penalty?

As it's called a contact sport what do you think?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Heard all the maoning about this "controversial" penalty expecting to see a Ronaldo or Young special - but no - looks a definite pen

It's not "definite" or "stonewall" as there's no clear evidence that the contact caused him to fall in the way he did. It's an incredibly hard call for the officials but if he felt a slight contact and went down when he didn't need to then it couldn't have been a foul. But only he knows that.

So I can see why it was given but I could have also understood if it hadn't been given. It's very much a judgement call, rather than "definite".

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

After looking at the slow motion replay for me it's a penalty. Or is contact not a penalty?

No. According to the relevant law a player has to be careless, reckless or use excessive force in tripping or attempting to trip a player. I can certainly see how Delaney could be described as careless by going to ground. But did he actually trip or attempt to trip Benteke? Slight contact doesn't necessarily mean he did.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

It's not "definite" or "stonewall" as there's no clear evidence that the contact caused him to fall in the way he did. It's an incredibly hard call for the officials but if he felt a slight contact and went down when he didn't need to then it couldn't have been a foul. But only he knows that.

So I can see why it was given but I could have also understood if it hadn't been given. It's very much a judgement call, rather than "definite".

I'll reduce definite to 99% a penalty then.

If Aguero was through and brought down at speed by a clip on his ankle or foot by a defenders knee sliding in, I'm sure many would be adding the 1%.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I'll reduce definite to 99% a penalty then.

If Aguero was through and brought down at speed by a clip on his ankle or foot by a defenders knee sliding in, I'm sure many would be adding the 1%.

But that's the point. If the contact was 100% responsible for bringing him down then it's 100% a penalty. If there was contact and Benteke could have stayed on his feet but chose to go down, then there's contact but it shouldn't be a penalty. What none of us know is how much part the contact played in bringing him down. You simply can't tell that from the replays.

 

[waspish]

As it's called a contact sport what do you think?

[emoji848]No

 

[Dave S]

Never a penalty in a million years! Cheating pure and simple.