Taxing the super rich

[Chippy_boy]

I earn 97k a year, the least paid person under me earns 18k.
We both went to the same schools, hospitals etc.

And?

 

[Armchair Supporter]

That's great mate, my mam is a qualified barrister and could have doubled her earnings in the private sector before the crash, yet she works for the state, despite countless cuts that have damaged her standard of living, for the sakes of people like you.

What that shit above didn't show is that everyone in the public sector has a degree at least, comparing their wages to farm and construction labourers or retail staff is pointless.

Aye, and if she was in the private sector during the crash and for long afterwards, you would be eating beans for dinner (actually scratch that, you and your parents would have fucked off to find work elsewhere).

Quite commically you pull the "yea but the public sector is better educated so duh" Card. You should have read the article, it mentions the very same in the 1st few paragraphs.
In truth, this "Education" is used as a gateing exersice to keep out the plebs and the lower classes from entering the public sector. It is widely acknowledged that the requirement for irish in the public sector (regardless of wherether you need it or not) is one such gate kept by the public sector to keep out the riff raff. Education is a paid privalige in Ireland. Want 3rd level education to get into the public sector? you need to have money to pay for the fees for college. The more money you have, the better the education. It isn't completely locked up (that wouldn't be very democratic would it) you can still get educated if you are a unemployed tosser, but your access to grinds, private schools, accomadation and all the other things needed to focus on your education is just that little bit further away.

Don't get me started on the quality of the legal system in Ireland, that is an absolute and utter disgrace worthy of a thread all by itself. Something i am sure you mother tells you about regularly.

 

[aguero93:20]

And?

I've got the same obligations to the system he does, but I can contribute more.

 

[Chippy_boy]

We can't all pay more mate, some people can't feed their kids while paying more, that's why we have tax credits. Those who can't afford to pay...

Sure, so increase the basic rate to 21p and those who hardly pay any tax will not pay any more anyway.

 

[Chippy_boy]

I've got the same obligations to the system he does, but I can contribute more.

And of course you do already.

I don't know if you're on PAYE, but if you were, you'd be paying £32,000 in tax and NI and your lowly paid colleague would be paying £2k. Seems pretty fair to me. 16X more tax for 5x the pay. Yeah, I'd say that's about right. He probably gets some of the £2k back in benefits you don't get as well.

 

[aguero93:20]

Aye, and if she was in the private sector during the crash and for long afterwards, you would be eating beans for dinner (actually scratch that, you and your parents would have fucked off to find work elsewhere).

Quite commically you pull the "yea but the public sector is better educated so duh" Card. You should have read the article, it mentions the very same in the 1st few paragraphs.
In truth, this "Education" is used as a gateing exersice to keep out the plebs and the lower classes from entering the public sector. It is widely acknowledged that the requirement for irish in the public sector (regardless of wherether you need it or not) is one such gate kept by the public sector to keep out the riff raff. Education is a paid privalige in Ireland. Want 3rd level education to get into the public sector? you need to have money to pay for the fees for college. The more money you have, the better the education. It isn't completely locked up (that wouldn't be very democratic would it) you can still get educated if you are a unemployed tosser, but your access to grinds, private schools, accomadation and all the other things needed to focus on your education is just that little bit further away.

Don't get me started on the quality of the legal system in Ireland, that is an absolute and utter disgrace worthy of a thread all by itself. Something i am sure you mother tells you about regularly.

Thanks mate.
Worked my way through college, paid my own fees. Had to support my daughter for 3 years of that.
Mam raised me on her own, with state support, worked her way to having a great career, not as good as she could have mind but she remembered what she owed.
My household doesn't lack for money mate, I'm on a great salary, as is my missus.
Those public servants you're angry at? Between us we pay one of them every year, happy to do so, it's a privilege.

Go fuck off and get angry and sorry for yourself somewhere else you prick, it didn't stop some of us.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Thanks mate.
Worked my way through college, paid my own fees. Had to support my daughter for 3 years of that.
Mam raised me on her own, with state support, worked her way to having a great career, not as good as she could have mind but she remembered what she owed.
My household doesn't lack for money mate, I'm on a great salary, as is my missus.
Those public servants you're angry at? Between us we pay one of them every year, happy to do so, it's a privilege.

Go fuck off and get angry and sorry for yourself somewhere else you prick, it didn't stop some of us.

No need to be offensive. Your mum might be a saint but the fact is there are a bunch of idle twats around in both the public and private sectors, and unemployed idle twats too. From my experience there's rather more of them in the public sector, but YMMV.

 

[aguero93:20]

And of course you do already.

I don't know if you're on PAYE, but if you were, you'd be paying £32,000 in tax and NI and your lowly paid colleague would be paying £2k. Seems pretty fair to me. 16X more tax for 5x the pay. Yeah, I'd say that's about right. He probably gets some of the £2k back in benefits you don't get as well.

Yet I'm capable of paying £52k and do.
Doesn't bother me if some of my staff get some of my tax, I wouldn't earn the income without their support.

 

[aguero93:20]

No need to be an offensive twat.

Probably shouldn't have been, but he did call my mother lazy.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

VAT on their sales, income tax on their staff.

So you think that if Starbucks disappears people will stop buying coffee?

One of the biggest myths in the world is that big companies create jobs. Spending creates jobs. If one company disappears, people will buy their stuff elsewhere. The places they buy them will hire more staff and pay more income tax. Manufacturing can be based anywhere, so it makes sense to put effort into attracting and keeping manufacturers in the country. But retailers can only sell where they are based. You can sell coffee on the UK high street from a cafe in Ireland.