Taxing the super rich

[Chippy_boy]

Probably shouldn't have been, but he did call my mother lazy.

I removed the twat before you quoted it, unfortunately.

 

[Chippy_boy]

So you think that if Starbucks disappears people will stop buying coffee?

One of the biggest myths in the world is that big companies create jobs. Spending creates jobs. If one company disappears, people will buy their stuff elsewhere. The places they buy them will hire more staff and pay more income tax. Manufacturing can be based anywhere, so it makes sense to put effort into attracting and keeping manufacturers in the country. But retailers can only sell where they are based. You can sell coffee on the UK high street from a cafe in Ireland.

And you think the amount of coffee sold would not decline if the price goes up? Hmmmm, interesting theory which seems to have evaded the capitalist world for the past 100 years.

 

[aguero93:20]

So you think that if Starbucks disappears people will stop buying coffee?

One of the biggest myths in the world is that big companies create jobs. Spending creates jobs. If one company disappears, people will buy their stuff elsewhere. The places they buy them will hire more staff and pay more income tax. Manufacturing can be based anywhere, so it makes sense to put effort into attracting and keeping manufacturers in the country. But retailers can only sell where they are based. You can sell coffee on the UK high street from a cafe in Ireland.

Who was selling coffee before Starbucks?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Who was selling coffee before Starbucks?

Er, nobody. It's a phenomenon that really only started 20 or 30 years ago here in the UK. Now there's coffee shops everywhere. 30 years ago, there were hardly any.

 

[aguero93:20]

I removed the twat before you quoted it, unfortunately.

I saw the original post. I like you, but I'm not going to be polite to some **** who calls my mother lazy when I know how hard she works.

 

[Fame Monster]

Oh yes you absolutely did - when you talked about growth versus tax rates and drew conclusions on a snapshot. It's very, very silly.

And once again, deficits are skewed by the likes of Germany, and a total deficit/surplus for a collection of countries is supremely irrelevant to anything in itself, and a question of trends for the individual nations. This is basic stuff.

I just pointed out that the current state of European Vs UK growth provides more weight to the view that having a lower tax economy doesn't grow GDP anymore than having a medium or high tax economy as do thousands of other studies. I'd say my opinion is based more on the totality of all that alongside the obvious fact that state spending drives the economy hugely, and much more than the private sector when it spends that money on huge infrastructure projects. If anyone's drawing conclusions, it's you.

 

[Armchair Supporter]

Thanks mate.
Worked my way through college, paid my own fees. Had to support my daughter for 3 years of that.
Mam raised me on her own, with state support, worked her way to having a great career, not as good as she could have mind but she remembered what she owed.
My household doesn't lack for money mate, I'm on a great salary, as is my missus.
Those public servants you're angry at? Between us we pay one of them every year, happy to do so, it's a privilege.

Go fuck off and get angry and sorry for yourself somewhere else you prick, it didn't stop some of us.

Well, i am not angry. Disappointed with what i see and what could be, yes, but not angry at you or your mum. (you seem to take my comments personally).
And well, you again, are proving my comments. You both work in the Public sector, you because of your mum. And you working for the public sector gives you a great salary (again proving my points as per the article).

I don't feel sorry for myself and i never suggested i do. i also will not stoop to insults or deflection to win internet point or arguments. I am just saying it as i see it.


edit: regarding your comments wrt calling your mum lazy.
As an educated person, you of all people should know that when talking about a sector or quantum of a society, that you have to generalise and that within those generalisations, you can have ( a significant portion) of outliers.

I know many people who work very hard in the public sector and to a man they constantly complain that they are the outlier.....

 

[aguero93:20]

Er, nobody. It's a phenomenon that really only started 20 or 30 years ago here in the UK. Now there's coffee shops everywhere. 30 years ago, there were hardly any.

Exactly. Increased sales, economy boosted.

 

[blueinsa]

I dont care one jot what anyone earns.

All power to them i say as long as they dont avoid taxes by illegal means.

Lots of jealousy today at Mrs Coates i see from people who wouldn't bat an eyelid if it was them being in a position to award themselves such a salary from their own incredibly profitable company.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Who was selling coffee before Starbucks?

Well Costa Coffee was founded in the same year. I don't see how it's relevant to the argument though.