Teachers to strike?

[LongsightM13]

It is also almost impossible to be sacked as a teacher once you get in the system, no matter how incompetent, useless, lead-swinging sicknote merchant or lazy you are.
Like paedophile priests, rubbish teachers just get moved on. They don't like admitting many are wrong 'uns feeding off the taxpayer's tit.
Can't remember the exact figure off the top of my head, but the boss of the NUT was put on the spot in a radio interview a couple of years ago and I'm sure he admitted it was way fewer than 100 crap teachers nationwide had been sacked in the last decade. And that included the nonces and thieves who ended up in prison.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Fuck off with the comment on fireman, they had to have second jobs because the wages were shit, and you can always get another job at weekend if you want more money, because that's what effectively they do. Many don't have second jobs, again another I'll informed poster,those that do, do it because they need the cash, do you think anyone would work more than they need to? Oh and we don't have beds and we don't play fucking snooker either before you start.

I thought it was pool and darts.

You got me there ;)

haha. Fair play :-)

 

[dom]

I will educate some of the ill-informed posters on here.

1) Many teachers not keen on a strike. I was on of 92% of voters who voted in favour of a strike.
2) Why would you have a teacher training day midweek? Teach for 2 days, have a day off, then back in for 2 days. That would intrerrupt the flow of teaching and prevent continuity. And what is wrong with continued development?
3) Why is it wrong to strike over a change in terms of contract? Teachers signed a contract with an agreed pension scheme (already reduced) - why is it ok for someone to renage on that contract?
4) I do have 13 weeks holiday a year...I have magic pixies who organise my class, do my displays, plan all of my lessons, do my subject coordinator work, write my class reports etc, etc.
5) I wish I worked 9-3, trust me I don't. In fact I have a pile of books to mark that I should be doing right now instead of being on here.

If it is so easy, I am trust that you will all have your applications in to uni to do your teaching degree???

Nah have a better career in the private sector.
Teacher training should be done in school holidays as well as most prep.

So how often does the curriculum change as most of my old teachers banged out the same material year in year out. Was obvious as they were always copying out of some moth eared paper.
Seems to me once you got it set up its easy.
On a side note sure 4 out of 5 of my my colledge teachers didn't even understand what they were copy of this i am sure in the way they behaved towards students.
Good teachers deserve what they get. But there are not so many of them otherwise you would have the support of the country behind you and the government would not dare touch you.

See me after school

Detention : do try and do some internet research on curriculum change in England since 1988 , then learn to spell and use syntax correctly.

 

[johnny on the spot]

Nah have a better career in the private sector.
Teacher training should be done in school holidays as well as most prep.

So how often does the curriculum change as most of my old teachers banged out the same material year in year out. Was obvious as they were always copying out of some moth eared paper.
Seems to me once you got it set up its easy.
On a side note sure 4 out of 5 of my my colledge teachers didn't even understand what they were copy of this i am sure in the way they behaved towards students.

Good teachers deserve what they get. But there are not so many of them otherwise you would have the support of the country behind you and the government would not dare touch you.

People pontificate on this subject due to having so many incompetent teachers in thier school years.

You are talking absolute shit.

 

[bluealf]

Fuck off with the comment on fireman, they had to have second jobs because the wages were shit, and you can always get another job at weekend if you want more money, because that's what effectively they do. Many don't have second jobs, again another I'll informed poster,those that do, do it because they need the cash, do you think anyone would work more than they need to? Oh and we don't have beds and we don't play fucking snooker either before you start.

Okay.

But I think you are ill informed about what is a good wage and what isnt.

I'm sure you are not earning £6.32 an hour are you ?

They had second jobs because they did sleep all night (not that I would want them out at fires every 5 minutes as that is obviously poor form)

You cant moan about poor pay when you are better paid than a lot of working class people.

This is what sticks in peoples throats, oh we have crap wages and shitty pensions and then up pops a figure of 28k a year and that beats my wage by a long way and you expect me to have any sympathy for you ?

Firemen do a good job a dangerous job yes but amply compensated for it.

 

[117 M34]

I will educate some of the ill-informed posters on here.

1) Many teachers not keen on a strike. I was on of 92% of voters who voted in favour of a strike.
2) Why would you have a teacher training day midweek? Teach for 2 days, have a day off, then back in for 2 days. That would intrerrupt the flow of teaching and prevent continuity. And what is wrong with continued development?
3) Why is it wrong to strike over a change in terms of contract? Teachers signed a contract with an agreed pension scheme (already reduced) - why is it ok for someone to renage on that contract?
4) I do have 13 weeks holiday a year...I have magic pixies who organise my class, do my displays, plan all of my lessons, do my subject coordinator work, write my class reports etc, etc.
5) I wish I worked 9-3, trust me I don't. In fact I have a pile of books to mark that I should be doing right now instead of being on here.

If it is so easy, I am trust that you will all have your applications in to uni to do your teaching degree???

Nah have a better career in the private sector.
Teacher training should be done in school holidays as well as most prep.

So how often does the curriculum change as most of my old teachers banged out the same material year in year out. Was obvious as they were always copying out of some moth eared paper.
Seems to me once you got it set up its easy.
On a side note sure 4 out of 5 of my my colledge teachers didn't even understand what they were copy of this i am sure in the way they behaved towards students.

Good teachers deserve what they get. But there are not so many of them otherwise you would have the support of the country behind you and the government would not dare touch you.

People pontificate on this subject due to having so many incompetent teachers in thier school years.

So I am meant to know in August that 7 of the kids in my class are going to struggle with fractions in November or 5 of my other kids are experts on the Tudors so will need extra challenging when we come to do that in the Summer term? I may be many things, a psychic I am not.

And just to add about those complianing about their difficulties in their chosen work, 60% of teachers who qualified in 2009 still haven't got a teaching job. Easy to be a teacher isn't it?

 

[Meester Pees]

It is also almost impossible to be sacked as a teacher once you get in the system, no matter how incompetent, useless, lead-swinging sicknote merchant or lazy you are.
Like paedophile priests, rubbish teachers just get moved on. They don't like admitting many are wrong 'uns feeding off the taxpayer's tit.
Can't remember the exact figure off the top of my head, but the boss of the NUT was put on the spot in a radio interview a couple of years ago and I'm sure he admitted it was way fewer than 100 crap teachers nationwide had been sacked in the last decade. And that included the nonces and thieves who ended up in prison.

The private system's no better, possibly even worse - During my abreviated tenure at St Bede's there was this clown called Billy Hock (no real names coz, well...), anyway this clown, he'd had a breakdown somewhere in the past & was a full-on gibberer, should've been retired on the sick, but nah, he was teaching classes with impunity.

And he was a science teacher and left us more or less unsupervised with chemicals and bunsen burners.

Honest to god, anyone who was at Bede's in the 80's, Billy Hock, for goodness sake.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

that's one of the problems though isn't it
the government don't invest it, they spend the money as it comes in

Exactly. That's what people don't realise. And I've just used a simple example with cash figures. The pensions will be subject to a CPI increase which I've ignored.

but that's not the fault of the public sector workers of today
that's the government using the money in years gone by to prop them up

yet it is today's workers they are looking to penalise

And private sector workers have been penalised for hte last 14 years by Brown's tax grab on their company schemes in 1997 and now we're all being penalised for his complete and wanton mismanagement of our national finances both in the face of advice given by the Treasury that it was wrong.

I don't begrudge anyone a decent pension but the point as originally made was that public sector pensions are largely funded by taxpayers. Plus the public sector worker is still better off pension-wise than most of his or her privste sector counterparts.

 

[Meester Pees]

Exactly. That's what people don't realise. And I've just used a simple example with cash figures. The pensions will be subject to a CPI increase which I've ignored.

but that's not the fault of the public sector workers of today
that's the government using the money in years gone by to prop them up

yet it is today's workers they are looking to penalise

And private sector workers have been penalised for hte last 14 years by Brown's tax grab on their company schemes in 1997 and now we're all being penalised for his complete and wanton mismanagement of our national finances both in the face of advice given by the Treasury that it was wrong.

I don't begrudge anyone a decent pension but the point as originally made was that public sector pensions are largely funded by taxpayers. Plus the public sector worker is still better off pension-wise than most of his or her privste sector counterparts.

So instead of f*ckin up public sector workers sh*t, why not legislate to enforce private sector employers make adequate provision for their workers retirements?

 

[squirtyflower]

Exactly. That's what people don't realise. And I've just used a simple example with cash figures. The pensions will be subject to a CPI increase which I've ignored.

but that's not the fault of the public sector workers of today
that's the government using the money in years gone by to prop them up

yet it is today's workers they are looking to penalise

And private sector workers have been penalised for hte last 14 years by Brown's tax grab on their company schemes in 1997 and now we're all being penalised for his complete and wanton mismanagement of our national finances both in the face of advice given by the Treasury that it was wrong.

I don't begrudge anyone a decent pension but the point as originally made was that public sector pensions are largely funded by taxpayers. Plus the public sector worker is still better off pension-wise than most of his or her privste sector counterparts.

and you are presupposing that public sector workers don't also invest for their future

Brown stole from all of us who have made investments in the stock market, isas and pension funds, not just private sector wallahs

ffs my second home in Courcheval lost all its pensionable tax free status when the greasy twat back tracked on a loop-hole he had created, cost me fuckin loads that did